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steeldancer-x wrote:GTA VI lmfao now that is something else

What a joke of a game. GTAV is almost everything what is wrong with gaming these days. It’s amazing how much money Rockstar made on this dumb soulless cash grab. Mostly through GTA online.

Red dead redemption 2 on other hand is a masterpiece. But I heard the 3rd part should be out around 2030.

So we still have plenty of time to polish the album;)
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steeldancer-x wrote:GTA VI lmfao now that is something else

What a joke of a game. GTAV is almost everything what is wrong with gaming these days. It’s amazing how much money Rockstar made on this dumb soulless cash grab. Mostly through GTA online.

Red dead redemption 2 on other hand is a masterpiece. But I heard the 3rd part should be out around 2030.

So we still have plenty of time to polish the album;)


Hold yer horses now, sonny. GTA V is still an incredibly solid single-player experience. Not sure how necessary the swarm of remasters were, though.

But while we're on the subject of GTA, is anyone else surprised that BoC are yet to make an appearance on one of the in-game radio stations? I mean, many of their contemporaries and labelmates have made their way onto the soundtracks in the past, and there's obviously the Edinburgh connection... so, why can't I mow down crowds in my Banshee while blasting Olson?!

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Sherbet Head wrote:But while we're on the subject of GTA, is anyone else surprised that BoC are yet to make an appearance on one of the in-game radio stations? I mean, many of their contemporaries and labelmates have made their way onto the soundtracks in the past, and there's obviously the Edinburgh connection... so, why can't I mow down crowds in my Banshee while blasting Olson?!
Electronic music as a whole gets shafted when it comes to GTA radio stations. We're never gonna get a spiritual successor to RISE FM, MSX98 FM, or SF-UR. Hell, when are we gonna get an industrial based station, or a gothic/post punk based station?

Given that (conventional) radio is a dying medium, get ready for rock, "hits", and hip-hop/RnB; that's all ya get. Have fun listening to Nickelback's "San Quentin" over and over again. :roll:
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Sherbet Head wrote:But while we're on the subject of GTA, is anyone else surprised that BoC are yet to make an appearance on one of the in-game radio stations? I mean, many of their contemporaries and labelmates have made their way onto the soundtracks in the past, and there's obviously the Edinburgh connection... so, why can't I mow down crowds in my Banshee while blasting Olson?!
Electronic music as a whole gets shafted when it comes to GTA radio stations. We're never gonna get a spiritual successor to RISE FM, MSX98 FM, or SF-UR. Hell, when are we gonna get an industrial based station, or a gothic/post punk based station?

Given that (conventional) radio is a dying medium, get ready for rock, "hits", and hip-hop/RnB; that's all ya get. Have fun listening to Nickelback's "San Quentin" over and over again. :roll:


There were a couple of Aphex Twin songs in GTA V and Flying Lotus literally had his own radio station in it. The electronic music stations in GTA IV had Aphex Twin, Autechre and The Orb. Overall The Journey and Self-Actualization stations were amazing.

BoC could definitely appear in GTA VI.

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But would they want to?

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Sherbet Head wrote:But while we're on the subject of GTA, is anyone else surprised that BoC are yet to make an appearance on one of the in-game radio stations? I mean, many of their contemporaries and labelmates have made their way onto the soundtracks in the past, and there's obviously the Edinburgh connection... so, why can't I mow down crowds in my Banshee while blasting Olson?!
Electronic music as a whole gets shafted when it comes to GTA radio stations. We're never gonna get a spiritual successor to RISE FM, MSX98 FM, or SF-UR. Hell, when are we gonna get an industrial based station, or a gothic/post punk based station?

Given that (conventional) radio is a dying medium, get ready for rock, "hits", and hip-hop/RnB; that's all ya get. Have fun listening to Nickelback's "San Quentin" over and over again. :roll:
There were a couple of Aphex Twin songs in GTA V and Flying Lotus literally had his own radio station in it. The electronic music stations in GTA IV had Aphex Twin, Autechre and The Orb. Overall The Journey and Self-Actualization stations were amazing.

BoC could definitely appear in GTA VI.
Honestly, I'm just butthurt that Jungle is probably gonna be confined to 1998/2001 :x
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rodox_head wrote:Electronic music as a whole gets shafted when it comes to GTA radio stations.


Not sure I agree. V has around 3 or 4 purely electronic stations, and even a couple more electronic-leaning ones.

IV had an electro station and a couple of ambient/new-age stations.

Loads of Warp artists have been included in the past couple of GTA games, and like Crono said, Flylo even hosted his own station in V, but Boards are nowhere to be seen throughout the entire franchise.

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rodox_head wrote:Honestly, I'm just butthurt that Jungle is probably gonna be confined to 1998/2001 :x


Jungle is massive

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luminousdusk wrote:But would they want to?


I think history has shown BoC have tried their best not to be sell-outs.
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luminousdusk wrote:But would they want to?


I think history has shown BoC have tried their best not to be sell-outs.


It seems to me they are quite happy to let their music be used in the context of which they invision it being used in, Documentarys and some movies etc Maybe they just dont see their music fitting with GTA, But they might be open for it to be used in other games perhaps. Just a guess.

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rodox_head wrote:Honestly, I'm just butthurt that Jungle is probably gonna be confined to 1998/2001 :x

Jungle is massive
Damn straight it is 8)
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luminousdusk wrote:But would they want to?


I think history has shown BoC have tried their best not to be sell-outs.


It seems to me they are quite happy to let their music be used in the context of which they invision it being used in, Documentarys and some movies etc Maybe they just dont see their music fitting with GTA, But they might be open for it to be used in other games perhaps. Just a guess.


Do we even know if they even have a last word with Warp when it comes to licensing their songs? You can find their music in pretty random places. Top Gear used a lot of BoC, overall BBC uses their music often for different documentaries. They've been doing music for multiple car commercials like the Chris Cunnigham Nissan ad and the BMW one, recently they've been in Baby Driver which is your typical action movie.

I don't really see a reason why they wouldn't want to feature their music in GTA unless they hold a grudge against the series for some reason. It's also Edinburgh's most famous regional product lmao

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Im almost certain that BoC would have the last word in who uses their music, They do own it after all and the copyright is under their names, they reserve all rights meaning noone can use their music without their permission.

As i said previously i think they like the idea of their music being used in a way that was inspiring to them when they started getting interested in making music.

I'd say it's more likely Rockstar just havent wanted to include them as opposed to them not wanting to be featured

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A lot of the media that they gave permission to featured their music is pretty close to being the antithesis of their art imo. The only thing I can make of it is that they were paid handsomely enough that it was too difficult to refuse, and that they weren't worried about it compromising their artistic integrity.

I would think that having property in the Scottish countryside is not the cheapest thing to acquire. I can't say I would blame them especially earlier in their career. However, at this point I would likely consider it selling out to some degree.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:A lot of the media that they gave permission to featured their music is pretty close to being the antithesis of their art imo. The only thing I can make of it is that they were paid handsomely enough that it was too difficult to refuse, and that they weren't worried about it compromising their artistic integrity.

I would think that having property in the Scottish countryside is not the cheapest thing to acquire. I can't say I would blame them especially earlier in their career. However, at this point I would likely consider it selling out to some degree.


There was a speculation back in the day that they could make a soundtrack for Blade runner 2049. As this didn’t pan out. I would love for them to make a theme for 28 months later.
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As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


This is really interesting because they have sampled a few tv commercials for Old Tunes vol 2 like the Frosties ad and Dirt Devil and even on SocietasX with Minute Maid and as youve mentioned they have given permission for their music to be used in car commercials and obviously The National Film Board of Canada, Sesame Street etc were huge influences on them so it seems like they are more than happy for their music to be used in all of these commercial ways but they must have a line drawn somewhere because they definitely have a non-selling out philosophy and im sure they have a very specific belief as to what purposes their music should or shouldn't be used for.
There are some references to video games in their work although not many.. I think maybe in Old Tunes vol 2 there *may be* a sample from a video game, We have Hi Scores which can obviously have a few meanings and a possible reference to video games and there's the possible reference to the game "Bad day on Midway" with Oscar see through red eye and ive only just made a connection myself with the track 'Bad day' to that. Also we can't forget the interactive flash media which isnt a game as such but one could argue with that, It is immersive multimedia. So im sure video games may have had a small influence on them, But maybe not enough for them to want to promote or be involved too deeply in.

So yeah i think they are happy for their music to be used for very commercial purposes which fall in line with their philosophy, Which must be an odd one.. Being commercial without selling out, Being popular and widely known without being too mainstream while still having an air of mystery.

It almost seems like theyve came full circle, They were influenced by television and documentaries when they were young and strived to recreate that nostalgic sound and almost by accident they have themselves became a part of what inspired them in the first place. Absolutely fascinating!

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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


The whole TH is a basically one big horror movie soundtrack. I can see them going full circle and influence the movies itself. For example some movie called Sinister

https://youtu.be/hQJlQeJr1Q8?si=HMKj7Q595J6iQ_J4

They would also feet with some sci-fi genre, I just wish they would release something new. Or the pre-twoism back catalogue
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