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The key to making art is to find soul in everything. That's my opinion. It doesn't have to be a jolly one, but a soul. TH is...kinda happy, kinda sad, kinda...meh. It's trying to do everything at once, and fails

There is some manipulation, but not as much as there used to be

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If you don't have the dik sometime, then the art is not about human race. Then is not art. This my theory.

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:The key to making art is to find soul in everything. That's my opinion. It doesn't have to be a jolly one, but a soul. TH is...kinda happy, kinda sad, kinda...meh. It's trying to do everything at once, and fails

There is some manipulation, but not as much as there used to be


Maybe TH is a lost soul in their Canon of Work? I dont think it fails at all. "trying to do everything at once" cant an album have several moods? are you saying the other albums only instill one mood at a time?
At the end of the day it is just music/art, all different types and tastes for everyone. Its not going to change the world, well not for any great length of time,just ask Bob Geldof(although in some circumstances it can inspire life-changes)
It may in its own way, help each and everyone of us in some little way,making us happy/settling us in times of stress or need or even when required to just be there in the background to help us get on with things or to sit back and enjoy...
There is no such thing as bad?shit music,just music you either like or don't like, Why? waste time dissing someones hard work and Creativity.
Sorry Naj but you seem to Hate/Diss TH more than anyone else on here(there,s a few, is that a new post up there?) You spend the most time putting it down.

So! why not take it to the second hand shop, where some other young person can come across it(discover some art) Buyit,listen to it and hopefully enjoy...
Maybe even be inspired by it and so pick up an instrument and learn to play and maybe create music to inspire us. :D

Not picking on you Naj your entitled to your opinion and as many comments as you can post and I hope you continue to do so.
But your like an assassin with TH in your sights. I take it you don't listen to it anymore? :twisted:

P.S. Have you been to that shop yet? Only joking! Or am I ? :twisted:
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Albums shouldn't have several moods, because very few bands have done it right. Actually, I can't think of any right now. If you jump from one place to another, what comes out is a mess, not an album. That's what has happened on TH

Sorry, what shop? lol

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:Albums shouldn't have several moods, because very few bands have done it right. Actually, I can't think of any right now. If you jump from one place to another, what comes out is a mess, not an album. That's what has happened on TH

Sorry, what shop? lol



Most soundtrack albums have different moods and that is exactly what TH is, albeit a soundtrack album with no film.

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I don't think so. I think that the mood largely depends on the theme of the movie/video game. If you have a war film, you won't make any techno for that. If you have an adventure film, you just don't make some very sad tunes. The best films don't have any music, anyway lol

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:Albums shouldn't have several moods, because very few bands have done it right. Actually, I can't think of any right now. If you jump from one place to another, what comes out is a mess, not an album. That's what has happened on TH

Sorry, what shop? lol


Most songwriters/musicians write about feelings and emotions wether it be happy or sad etc etc . music creates many different moods and feelings, instilling in us all sorts of emotions, it can inspire, excite it can make us feel warm it can bring back memories or a sense of Deja-vu conjuring up all sorts of images of things and places, How can you say albums should,nt have several moods most do. Take the Beatles for example( you going to diss them as well) all those songs all the different feelings and moods conveyed. Most music, rock jazz,classical all have different moods throughout or every singular piece, most albums are collections of moods and themes, even fully instrumental albums change from start to finish, be a complete bore if they didn't.
MHTRTC is full of different moods conveying all sort of images of places, nature, nostalgia, seasons which in turn feed our emotions creating a mood. Most music is about mood and setting, telling a story, even soundtracks.

That must be one boring album your searching for...
Don't they have second hand record shops in Europe?
Sorry Naj don't want to moan at you, throw your copy in the bin :twisted:

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The Beatles' albums are generally happy/light. Sorry, but that's the truth as far as I'm concerned...

MHTRTC has a theme of nostalgia and warmth.

TH is sad and happy at the same time. Well, it is just sad (NOTHING ELSE, just sadness, no images, no nothing) on the first side, I have to admit that. And the 2nd side has actually two faces to it.

The thing about sad music is that it has to have a soul. Music can't just sound sad. The infamous production on TH makes it all sound so plain. "Ehh, okay, time for some sad sounds...what a ride. Get ready for some more sadness, sweet, right?". Like seriously, nothing can be JUST SAD. It's about the melancholy, the loss, the undescribable (at least for me) IT, which makes it all- yes- have a soul. They've made sad songs before. Look straight into your screen and write that you don't like Everything You Do Is A Balloon. The title explains it all. The song just shows the futility of it all, of everything we do. To me, this song is 1000x more depressing than TH, which is just like "Future's scary, right? Wow, how scary. Are you scared?". Sad music should be human, not robotic. I recognize the intentions, but it just didn't work out the way it could have. I'm just not okay with soulless music. I dunno lol

And yeah, we do, but not in my city and not often enough in my 2nd world country. And I'm just too cheap to throw it away...I would give it to someone, but I don't have any friends atm and I don't know who should I give it to. Maybe a Twoismer?

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:The Beatles' albums are generally happy/light. Sorry, but that's the truth as far as I'm concerned...



Wow! :roll:

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Which album is dark then?

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Sorry Naj I totally disagree with a lot of your comments but that is what the forum is all about.
I do love Everything You Do Is a balloon though.
I know not everybody agrees with what you say and you do rile some people by continually putting TH down ( and you have the right to do so) check the new post on TH, but im sure that I speak for everyone when I say we have no ill will against you,everybody will agree.
I find it sad that you say you have no Friends :(
I would like to put out my hand as a friend and hope everybody else thinks the same way.
may our musical disagreements continue...

Take care, look after yourself and keep posting :D

P.S. The White album has some dark moments . And Although Maxwell's Silver Hammer is all Jolly it is a Wolf in sheeps clothing ( Meh/ or Mehhhh) have you read the Lyrics? :twisted:
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Najlepsiejszy wrote:Which album is dark then?


Better yet, explain to us why tracks such as Revolution 9, A Day In The Life, Run For Your Life, I Want You (She's So Heavy), Blue Jay Way, Strawberry Fields Forever, In My Life, Helter Skelter, Julia, Eleanor Rigby, Tomorrow Never Knows, The Long And Winding Road, Let It Be, She's Leaving Home, For No One, .... are happy/light...as far as you're concerned? :wink:

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I've said albums, not individual tracks...

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:Albums shouldn't have several moods, because very few bands have done it right. Actually, I can't think of any right now. If you jump from one place to another, what comes out is a mess, not an album.


My list proves that Beatles albums aren't 'generally' one mood at all.

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All those songs, maybe except for Helter Skelter, sound just like the rest of the LPs they're on. Just because a song has sad lyrics doesn't mean it's immediately very hard to listen to or change the mood of the LP radically etc

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I wish we had a filter here on Twoism that filtered out the rattlings of people with too much time on their hands. And a filter for the negative sad sacks.

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Thanks for the subtle insults, just what I need to make this day even worse

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:All those songs, maybe except for Helter Skelter, sound just like the rest of the LPs they're on.


I think this reveals a lot about how extensive your critical analysis is when it comes to evaluating music. I suspect you've not even heard those songs. What other track on The White Album sounds like Revolution 9. Why does Helter Skelter in particular remarkably stand out as being so radically different when it sits among tracks like Julia, Honey Pie and Don't Pass Me By?

Najlepsiejszy wrote:Just because a song has sad lyrics doesn't mean it...changes the mood of the LP radically etc


Actually, that's exactly what it does, especially when it sits among other material with contrasting moods.

cbm wrote:I wish we had a filter here on Twoism that filtered out the rattlings of people with too much time on their hands. And a filter for the negative sad sacks.


That is a delicious irony. :lol:

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cbm wrote:I wish we had a filter here on Twoism that filtered out the rattlings of people with too much time on their hands. And a filter for the negative sad sacks.


Well Howdy doody cowboy,Have you had an Epiphany :twisted:
53 posts since 2011. You just wake up Rip Van Winkle.

We are having a conversation/disagreement, just one of the many that people have on here.

Hahaha, you don't need a filter my man, just go back to sleep.

I can take Criticism no bother. Can you?Or were you going to just leave your comment and shuffle back to where you came from.
What you gonna do big boy put me down by swearing or use some stunning Hyperbole to confuse me. :twisted:
"too much time" Ha ha.

I Still Disagree with you NaJ . But ignore his crap don't take it personally :D

Sorry Mex , This is going way past BOC land. :wink:

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Najlepsiejszy wrote:Thanks for the subtle insults, just what I need to make this day even worse


You need to remember Naj, that you are present on a 'BOC FAN FORUM'. A place where people like BOC. If you persistently criticise their work, it's going to upset people.

Essentially, people come here to celebrate BOC, as it is probably of significant importance to them. How do you expect people to react to your constant negativity toward TH? Are you expecting people to agree? Maybe you should try the 'We Partially Hate BOC Fan Forum' at Pooism.org.

Maybe, rather than blaming other people for making your day worse, perhaps you should analyse why that behaviour is shown toward you. Realise that your actions may have consequences, and it's your actions that affect you.

Peace, bro. :)

Mex, I'd lock this pretty soon... :wink:

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