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ZosoCon wrote:Any theories out there?


One or two, yes. One or two.
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The way I see it, they have a contractual agreement that must be fulfilled and that means that there will be more BoC at least to some degree.

Either that or Mike and Marcus are dead and nobody has disclosed this information.

In other words, it would be unwise to assume there will be no further releases. At the very least, I'm sure the infamous "BoCset" will come, even if a new album does not, and if it does, I seriously hope it has a handful of the dozens of unused tracks from the Geogaddi era on it.
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I honestly don't believe that there is a link but I think that the similarities between the colours, font of the second BoC sticker and the distortion of the faces is interesting.


I've met Jim Noir!Nice dude.

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ZosoCon wrote:Any theories out there?

Quantum field theory (QFT) provides a theoretical framework for constructing quantum mechanical models of systems classically represented by an infinite number of degrees of freedom, that is, fields and (in a condensed matter context) many-body systems. It is the natural and quantitative language of particle physics and condensed matter physics. Most theories in modern particle physics, including the Standard Model of elementary particles and their interactions, are formulated as relativistic quantum field theories. Quantum field theories are used in many contexts, and are especially vital in elementary particle physics, where the particle count/number may change over the course of a reaction. They are also used in the description of critical phenomena and quantum phase transitions, such as in the BCS theory of superconductivity.

In perturbative quantum field theory, the forces between particles are mediated by other particles. The electromagnetic force between two electrons is caused by an exchange of photons. Intermediate vector bosons mediate the weak force and gluons mediate the strong force. There is currently no complete quantum theory of the remaining fundamental force, gravity, but many of the proposed theories postulate the existence of a graviton particle that mediates it. These force-carrying particles are virtual particles and, by definition, cannot be detected while carrying the force, because such detection will imply that the force is not being carried. In addition, the notion of "force mediating particle" comes from perturbation theory, and thus does not make sense in a context of bound states.

In QFT, photons are not thought of as "little billiard balls" but are rather viewed as field quanta – necessarily chunked ripples in a field, or "excitations", that "look like" particles. Fermions, like the electron, can also be described as ripples/excitations in a field, where each kind of fermion has its own field. In summary, the classical visualisation of "everything is particles and fields", in quantum field theory, resolves into "everything is particles", which then resolves into "everything is fields". In the end, particles are regarded as excited states of a field (field quanta). The gravitational field and the electromagnetic field are the only two fundamental fields in Nature that have infinite range and a corresponding classical low-energy limit, which greatly diminishes and hides their "particle-like" excitations. Albert Einstein, in 1905, attributed "particle-like" and discrete exchanges of momenta and energy, characteristic of "field quanta", to the electromagnetic field. Originally, his principal motivation was to explain the thermodynamics of radiation. Although it is often claimed that the photoelectric and Compton effects require a quantum description of the EM field, this is now understood to be untrue, and proper proof of the quantum nature of radiation is now taken up into modern quantum optics as in the antibunching effect.[1] The word "photon" was coined in 1926 by physical chemist Gilbert Newton Lewis (see also the articles photon antibunching and laser).

There are several theories using the QFT framework, such as quantum electrodynamics and quantum chromodynamics. Within a theory, there is one field for each type of particle in that theory, and interaction terms between the fields. For example, QED has one electron field and one photon field; QCD has one field for each type of quark, etc. The interaction terms are similar in spirit to those in Maxwell's equations, being interactions between fields. However unlike Maxwell's theory, QFT fields generally exist in superpositions of states.

In the "low-energy limit", the quantum field-theoretic description of the electromagnetic field, quantum electrodynamics, does not exactly reduce to James Clerk Maxwell's 1864 theory of classical electrodynamics. Small quantum corrections due to virtual electron-positron pairs give rise to small non-linear corrections to the Maxwell equations, although the "classical limit" of quantum electrodynamics has not been as widely explored as that of quantum mechanics.
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Rodheh wrote:The way I see it, they have a contractual agreement that must be fulfilled and that means that there will be more BoC at least to some degree.


Contracts can be broken, rendered invalid, brought back, etc. so I am afraid that this doesn't prove anything.

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Rodheh wrote:The way I see it, they have a contractual agreement that must be fulfilled and that means that there will be more BoC at least to some degree.


Contracts can be broken, rendered invalid, brought back, etc. so I am afraid that this doesn't prove anything.


But because of the process involved in breaking a contract, I think it's more than likely we would have heard of this.

As has also been pointed out before, Boards of Canada is still listed as an artist associated with the label on the Warp website, whereas other artists that have fulfilled their contractual agreements and stopped working with Warp in the past have since been removed.

I'm not saying it's necessarily "proof" that BoC will be back, but it's as much proof as the counter argument saying they won't be back. If that were the case, don't you think they would have said something about that years ago? I mean, I know they play the reclusive persona but they'd have to be some kind of extremely pretentious assholes to decide to stop making music and then tease at something new to come.
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I think there will be a new record coming out at some point in the future. Until such a time as it is released, though, I keep myself entertained with tracks by the many excellent artists which can be found listed in This Random Sound.

I'm OK with that.

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pianoforte wrote:I think there will be a new record coming out at some point in the future. Until such a time as it is released, though, I keep myself entertained with tracks by the many excellent artists which can be found listed in This Random Sound.

I'm OK with that.
I think you're right on with this.
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Rodheh wrote:
Magrathea wrote:
Rodheh wrote:The way I see it, they have a contractual agreement that must be fulfilled and that means that there will be more BoC at least to some degree.


Contracts can be broken, rendered invalid, brought back, etc. so I am afraid that this doesn't prove anything.


But because of the process involved in breaking a contract, I think it's more than likely we would have heard of this.

As has also been pointed out before, Boards of Canada is still listed as an artist associated with the label on the Warp website, whereas other artists that have fulfilled their contractual agreements and stopped working with Warp in the past have since been removed.

I'm not saying it's necessarily "proof" that BoC will be back, but it's as much proof as the counter argument saying they won't be back. If that were the case, don't you think they would have said something about that years ago? I mean, I know they play the reclusive persona but they'd have to be some kind of extremely pretentious assholes to decide to stop making music and then tease at something new to come.


Also just in general if mdg who knows them well insists that there will be something in the future then the evidence is there. I mean it would be flat out illogical for them to just lie to fans so I just disagree with the doubt that there won't be anything new. I think there's enough to say we're sorta beyond that point.

But also patience is a virtue and therefore I'm perfectly content with a long wait for new material because it will be worthwhile and there's plenty of great music around.

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Rodheh wrote:
Magrathea wrote:
Rodheh wrote:The way I see it, they have a contractual agreement that must be fulfilled and that means that there will be more BoC at least to some degree.


Contracts can be broken, rendered invalid, brought back, etc. so I am afraid that this doesn't prove anything.


But because of the process involved in breaking a contract, I think it's more than likely we would have heard of this.

As has also been pointed out before, Boards of Canada is still listed as an artist associated with the label on the Warp website, whereas other artists that have fulfilled their contractual agreements and stopped working with Warp in the past have since been removed.

I'm not saying it's necessarily "proof" that BoC will be back, but it's as much proof as the counter argument saying they won't be back. If that were the case, don't you think they would have said something about that years ago? I mean, I know they play the reclusive persona but they'd have to be some kind of extremely pretentious assholes to decide to stop making music and then tease at something new to come.


Also just in general if mdg who knows them well insists that there will be something in the future then the evidence is there. I mean it would be flat out illogical for them to just lie to fans so I just disagree with the doubt that there won't be anything new. I think there's enough to say we're sorta beyond that point.

But also patience is a virtue and therefore I'm perfectly content with a long wait for new material because it will be worthwhile and there's plenty of great music around.

mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Okay, let's assume that MDG lied about the previous release date and "doesn't know squat".

Not only would this mean that his statement about something is coming is false, but it means that the legitimacy of ANYTHING he's said is false. It means that his confirmation of Old Tunes being legitimate is completely false. It means that he may not be part of Hexagon Sun at all. If this were the case, BoC most likely would have called him out by now as they've definitely seen Old Tunes being online and his statements.

Just seems more likely to me that he's gotten word from the band that they've planned on releasing material in past years (the 2010 post comes to mind) but that they've changed their mind, leading to the deletion of his post.
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Helios wrote:mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.


Someone nudge the deck. His record's stuck...
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this whole topic is beginning to remind me of that one book i read in elementary school, where the aliens kill the power for a few hours and then sit back and watch everybody start turning on eachother and killing eachother. its kind of like what is happening here but with the black box.


just be happy, enjoy life, and enjoy they music they've released already. the new music will come when its ready.

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I'm realizing I only come to this thread to convince people to stop being what I believe as unnecessarily pessimistic but then again I can't change people's beliefs/opinions that easily.

The only thing that bugs me is the occasional projection of superiority from those who say there isn't going to be anything new over those who still post about new material. That my friends, is bullshit.

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Helios wrote:mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Quite an accomplishment then for someone who "doesn't know squat" to be involved in BoC's official social media channels and additionally to have been granted access to their domain name. It's 100% certain M&M don't trust MDG at all.

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Helios wrote:mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Quite an accomplishment then for someone who "doesn't know squat" to be involved in BoC's official social media channels and additionally to have been granted access to their domain name. It's 100% certain M&M don't trust MDG at all.


How about well-connected unapologetic purveyor of misinformation? (Sorry, couldn't resist ;)).

I think I've said it before, but I do give him credit for finally hushing up about new releases. Points off still for not being responsible/accountable for his actions by owning up to the hornet's nest of excitement that he repeatedly stirred up.

Back on topic, now that the year is almost over what do we think the next possible release date might be if there is actually new material? February?

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Personally I'm optimistic about an early 2013 release but maybe that's asking for too much.

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Helios wrote:mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Quite an accomplishment then for someone who "doesn't know squat" to be involved in BoC's official social media channels and additionally to have been granted access to their domain name. It's 100% certain M&M don't trust MDG at all.

No one is saying he's a chronic liar. I'm sure his intentions are good. But it's clear his "intel" isn't the most reliable.

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Helios wrote:mdg doesn't know squat! Like someone said before, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Quite an accomplishment then for someone who "doesn't know squat" to be involved in BoC's official social media channels and additionally to have been granted access to their domain name. It's 100% certain M&M don't trust MDG at all.


How about well-connected unapologetic purveyor of misinformation? (Sorry, couldn't resist ;)).

I think I've said it before, but I do give him credit for finally hushing up about new releases. Points off still for not being responsible/accountable for his actions by owning up to the hornet's nest of excitement that he repeatedly stirred up.

Back on topic, now that the year is almost over what do we think the next possible release date might be if there is actually new material? February?

Fall 2013. If it doesn't happen then, it probably won't for another five years. If at all.

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I just hope they are enjoying making music still and aren't making it to oblige to the contractual agreement.
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