Your controversial BoC opinions.

[skam]

the more I listen to palace posy, the more I kind of start to like it
I retract my earlier statement; palace posy is OK, if not pretty good

[ShaneAnthony]

the more I listen to palace posy, the more I kind of start to like it
I retract my earlier statement; palace posy is OK, if not pretty good

Same! This track took a long time to grow on me, but then again TH took forever for me to wrap my head around. First few listens scared the shit out of me, no joke!

[2020k]

I love what Solange did and I don't give a fuck!

What, her remixes or her bitch slapping Jay-Z?

Of course shit goes down when there's a billion dollars on an elevator.

[lewwatt]

Someone said it was contentious and this isn't my first day having read the things he's expressed here. I thought the person who considered his post that was completely in line with the thread contentious must have missed some of his more...opinionated posts in other threads, as that was nothing. At least not until the second post. He had NOT as it turns out seen those posts as he is "fairly new".

I do have a name y'know . Just kidding of course.

I'd like to see these opinionated posts.. I suppose I will come across them in my own time though. Just to make sure I haven't been misunderstood; I didn't mean to say that he was wrong or unacceptable in his views, just that I thought he had met the criteria of the thread perfectly from my own perspective.

He also said it was the most controversial opinion expressed so far...which is the point. I guess if you guys want to debate each other about your subjective opinions then you can, but the guy apparently finds x not as good as x. Leave it alone, it's just an opinion. At the same time, someone's threshold for breaking shouldn't be one post.

I feel like I've been perceived as angry or something if you are saying that I 'broke'. The barrage of questions I posted were genuine and sincere interest in why he holds the opinion that he does. I picked out his post in particular because I found that out of everyone in the thread, it was the only one which I couldn't really understand or reason with. There were plenty of opinions posted which I wouldn't share myself but I could justify and understand them, not so much for what zeoevil was saying (not to imply that it is unreasonable, that is why I queried him). Isn't that the real point of this thread? That you can come round to other peoples opinions which you previously would not have understood or found reasonable? I don't think that it's pointless to debate about opinions because regardless of their subjectivity there is objective material and personality backing them up which can be communicated. I'd say in some cases these exchanges can change peoples minds to the extent where their opinion will change too. There are countless times for me where I've came round to what a friend has said about X after initially disliking X, I don't see why that can't apply here.

[d e n]

..accidental double post

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[d e n]

yo rodeh,

I really meant it when I said it wasn't personal!

I was trying to point out the inherent humor in the consistent flip flopping of certain records being great and not-so-good – and treating this as if its happening on some objective scale

eg.

I do declare Tomorrow's Harvest a three out of ten! it sounds like they totally threw together old material!

why yes sir!


one month later


this record is DOPE! totally growing on me

this is over exaggerated in attempt to have a laugh but theres definitely a lot of quick judgements made about music–often influenced by peripheral non-musical things. In my opinion that is a tendency we all have to some extent! its something that I struggle with and have been trying to unlearn so I can get closer to the music. it can take a lot to quiet the mind down

[Crystalspike]

From BOC pages:
"Pared down from an extraordinary 90+ tracks to a total of 23 (one of which is silence), Geogaddi has been described by Boards of Canada as...."

Over 90 tracks. Over 90 freaking tracks, and after Geogaddi, we only have seen one outtake from it (Seven Forty Seven.) The CD is over 10 years old, and all this time they have been keeping all their other stuff to themselves. Not even an annversary CD with some outtakes. Sure, they played a bunch of them live and put some on loops for the website, but a loop is a loop, and live bootleg tracks aren't the best way to hear BOC anyway. And even if I'm wrong, they still never let people record their stuff live (The ATP bootlegger sewed a device into his shirt or some crap.) It's like they don't want anyone to hear their full genius other than the stuff they released already, and if you think about it, they don't even have all that big of an official discography. a few albums and a couple EP's is all they have to show for the, what, 20 + years they've been making music? Don't get me wrong, I LOVE their music, but I want more. I feel like they don't care that their fans would love nothing more to hear all, or least SOME songs that were left out of a brilliant album. How many years without a new album? 7 I think? New album comes around, we get 17 tracks and half of them are bland but it's decent. What else do we get after that? Vinyl reissues. Somebody call up the marching band, because i want to throw a parade. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks vinyl records are a waste of space, harder to skip tracks, and can not be listened to on the go. Nostalgic? Sure, but that's pretty much all it has going for it. But anyway, they went through all the trouble to re issue all that stuff, but no Geogaddi rarity compilation? Come on.

[Peacock Tail]

I think when they said 90 tracks, they actually meant 90 ideas sketched down in 'musical notebook' form.

Probably these ideas were as little as a single bar of music, a single melody line, a chord progression or a loop. They then probably picked around 20 of these ideas to develop into tracks to complete for the album.

I can't be certain but I don't think there's actually another 70 completed tracks lying about.

I can imagine that as time passes and new ideas are thought of, the enthusiasm to return to older unused ideas is probably very limited.

[Cupz]

I could make 90 tracks in 4 years no sweat. Thats only 23 tracks a year.
I've only been flamingo pudding for just a little over 4 years now and already made 15 albumsworth, some of which is pretty good (had to double check that because it sounds unbelievable...but its true ). So if they only made 90, thats less then what I'm doing, and they're 200x more experienced then me in making music, I think they sound pretty solid and finished, and I would drink a gallon of garbage juice to listen to it.
I think it is very plausible, they even have time left to "spend months on a hihat sound", albeit not for every hihat sound.

[Valotonin]

I could make 90 tracks in 4 years no sweat. Thats only 23 tracks a year.
I've only been flamingo pudding for just a little over 4 years now and already made 15 albumsworth, some of which is pretty good (had to double check that because it sounds unbelievable...but its true ). So if they only made 90, thats less then what I'm doing, and they're 200x more experienced then me in making music, I think they sound pretty solid and finished, and I would drink a gallon of garbage juice to listen to it.
I think it is very plausible, they even have time left to "spend months on a hihat sound", albeit not for every hihat sound.

Can I hear your music, Cupz. Kind of intrigued.

Controversial opinion: Boards find the whole mystique thing really funny and marvel at their own ability to drive people to the verges of sanity just through cryptic-ism. I think they have some pretty spiritual practices, don't get me wrong, but the amount of speculation created by fans shows a lot about the power of the human mind and its need to fill in information when it is denied it. People are/where on the verge of saying Hexagon sun was a cult for fucks sake.

[Fireal420]

I could make 90 tracks in 4 years no sweat. Thats only 23 tracks a year.
I've only been flamingo pudding for just a little over 4 years now and already made 15 albumsworth, some of which is pretty good (had to double check that because it sounds unbelievable...but its true ). So if they only made 90, thats less then what I'm doing, and they're 200x more experienced then me in making music, I think they sound pretty solid and finished, and I would drink a gallon of garbage juice to listen to it.
I think it is very plausible, they even have time left to "spend months on a hihat sound", albeit not for every hihat sound.

Can I hear your music, Cupz. Kind of intrigued.

Controversial opinion: Boards find the whole mystique thing really funny and marvel at their own ability to drive people to the verges of sanity just through cryptic-ism. I think they have some pretty spiritual practices, don't get me wrong, but the amount of speculation created by fans shows a lot about the power of the human mind and its need to fill in information when it is denied it. People are/where on the verge of saying Hexagon sun was a cult for fucks sake.

thats exactly it.

the secrecy. leads to people filling in the blanks in their own mind. which always makes it way cooler and exaggerated than the actual thing.



no reason to idolize them. just appreciate their music and wish them well.

[Iced Cooly Beatnik]

I may be brutal.
Telephasic Workshop isn't all that interesting, it's impressive, but not hugely enjoyable.
An Eagle In Your Mind goes on a bit too long, and is dull for the first 2 or 3 minutes.
Old Tunes and R3TT is a bit cheesy and crap at times, for example Audiotrack 12 sounds like Muzak, Paul Russell's Piece sounds like boring disco, We've Started Up just bores me to tears.

[Najlepsiejszy]

Old Tunes and R3TT is a bit cheesy and crap at times, for example Audiotrack 12 sounds like Muzak, Paul Russell's Piece sounds like boring disco, We've Started Up just bores me to tears.

Well you know, they haven't released these for a reason

[Iced Cooly Beatnik]

Old Tunes and R3TT is a bit cheesy and crap at times, for example Audiotrack 12 sounds like Muzak, Paul Russell's Piece sounds like boring disco, We've Started Up just bores me to tears.

Well you know, they haven't released these for a reason

Perhaps this is why we haven't seen the box set?

[d e n]

cupz, garbage juice... that's gnarly!

I think it is unlikely that they WONT release the the box set.... they've mentioned wanting to do it more than once in interviews and I doubt they'd even mention it if that wasn't there intention...


controversial opinion)...

regarding the whole enigmatic thing... I feel like we speak about them as if they've never once taken part in an interview.

I highly recommend reading through everything single Boards of Canada interview archived on bocpages starting from Music Has The Right... over a period of a week or two. I did this recently and taking in all that information in a short period of time was inspiring for one, and also made me realize they are in fact very open... particularly throughout the Campfire Headphase era–in one of the interviews for that record Mike even said he has had a "history with depression".

They've simply just not succeeded to what is conventionally expected of a band that is listened to on the world stage.

I guess I am trying to argue that when you think about it it isn't that far out or enigmatic for a band to speak about themselves through interviews alone. We are just conditioned to know so much about every thing and everyone whether its true or not.

so I'm relieved to know that someone who makes something so amazing makes the effort to simply not let what this is all about become subordinate to feeding public persona. Their job is to produce music and that's what they do.

the photo at the bottom of this screen is all we need to know!

[irv]

Don't know if this is controversial necessarily but didn't think it warranted a separate thread...

I prefer the live version of Julie and Candy recorded off the soundboard at the ATP gig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-y8HNhJkyM

I literally only found out about this yesterday - I love that there is so much out there to discover. They must have so much wonderful material they've produced that we've not heard, I hope one day we get to.

[Negamuse]

Don't know if this is controversial necessarily but didn't think it warranted a separate thread...

I prefer the live version of Julie and Candy recorded off the soundboard at the ATP gig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-y8HNhJkyM

I literally only found out about this yesterday - I love that there is so much out there to discover. They must have so much wonderful material they've produced that we've not heard, I hope one day we get to.

Its really cool to hear something really familiar exploded and reassembled in a different way. Part of the joy of hearing anything live I suppose. But J+C being one of those tracks that was so heavily about the process of how it was made - with the different ages of tapes - its all the more fantastic to hear it done so well in a different way. Like if they can do that live, what can't they do?

[ajayeff]

I agree that some boc fans are way too intense. Some fans are obsessed with proving how they like boc more than you plus you can get shot down for having a different opinion to them (maybe that's just the Internet in general)

All this makes me hesitant in saying I too don't care for Rue the Whirl and I also think The Campfire Headphase is their best album.

[ajayeff]

I could make 90 tracks in 4 years no sweat. Thats only 23 tracks a year.
I've only been flamingo pudding for just a little over 4 years now and already made 15 albumsworth, some of which is pretty good (had to double check that because it sounds unbelievable...but its true ). So if they only made 90, thats less then what I'm doing, and they're 200x more experienced then me in making music, I think they sound pretty solid and finished, and I would drink a gallon of garbage juice to listen to it.
I think it is very plausible, they even have time left to "spend months on a hihat sound", albeit not for every hihat sound.

Can I hear your music, Cupz. Kind of intrigued.

Controversial opinion: Boards find the whole mystique thing really funny and marvel at their own ability to drive people to the verges of sanity just through cryptic-ism. I think they have some pretty spiritual practices, don't get me wrong, but the amount of speculation created by fans shows a lot about the power of the human mind and its need to fill in information when it is denied it. People are/where on the verge of saying Hexagon sun was a cult for fucks sake.

thats exactly it.

the secrecy. leads to people filling in the blanks in their own mind. which always makes it way cooler and exaggerated than the actual thing.



no reason to idolize them. just appreciate their music and wish them well.

Completely agree. I think not just boc but Warp also promote a lot of this with their artists

[Cupz]

Can I hear your music, Cupz. Kind of intrigued.

Everybody can hear my music, buddy. Just click on the website button below!