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No problem.

I assume you have GPs (General Practitioners) in Spain? Like a family doctor?

Talk to them, they can refer you. Do you have free medical care? If so therapy should be free as well.

They may suggest CBT - Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I've never found it helpful. But it is proven to work for many people, over 50% of treatments work.

I would suggest asking for a counsellor. But try CBT anyway as it is worth checking out.
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Aerial Boundaries wrote:No problem.

I assume you have GPs (General Practitioners) in Spain? Like a family doctor?

Talk to them, they can refer you. Do you have free medical care? If so therapy should be free as well.

They may suggest CBT - Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I've never found it helpful. But it is proven to work for many people, over 50% of treatments work.

I would suggest asking for a counsellor. But try CBT anyway as it is worth checking out.

I will, thanks a lot :D
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everything will be ok :) I promise!
I always like the idea of living life like you have nothing to lose better then suicide.

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Its frustrating as fuck to read overwhelming anecdotal evidence that some of my biggest issues could be helped by some psychadelics rather than going back on prozac but have no fucking inkling where Id lay my hands on some.

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MrMessiah wrote:Its frustrating as fuck to read overwhelming anecdotal evidence that some of my biggest issues could be helped by some psychadelics rather than going back on prozac but have no fucking inkling where Id lay my hands on some.

They are also risky as shite. But so is prozac so there you go.

I have no doubt they have helped many people, but they've also pushed people over the edge. There is no way of knowing how you will react to them because everyone is different in their response.

I've always taken the example of Terrence McKenna. Admittedly he never spoke about it, and this is coming from his peers. So perhaps it is all bullshit but: His psychedelic of choice was psilocybus mushrooms, right up until 1988. He experienced a completely nightmarish trip on them and never touched them again. He with great reluctance took ayahuasca and a few others occasionally afterwards, but never again did he touch mushrooms. I am not saying he was a fraud or that it somehow invalidates all of his research on them, but it just goes to show how risky the whole thing is.

All that said and done if you are serious about it, the easiest way by far (if you don't have any contacts) is growing shrooms yourself. Don't buy a growkit or anything, they are shit and give you a low yield most of the time. It is easy to make your own setup using PF cakes, and not particularly expensive. The spores can be bought legally online in the UK.

I can point you towards some guides if you like. (I had a stab at it when I was younger, made the mistake of not keeping the room temperature under control, but ultimately if you take some time to plan it out it is very easy.)
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I am sorry to bother you guys so much, but I need some advice or help, I've got a few problmes with my girlfriend I've never known how to overcome.

So the thing is, I've known my girlfirend for about 5 years, and we have been dating for only one, but she was in mad love about me in about the first year of friendship, and as I didn't correspond the love, she started cutting herself about three years ago, which was a high pressure to me, becouse I knew it was my fault and I didn't know what to do or say, I always get confused and don't know what to think in that kind of situation, also there was a constant "I love you, do you love me?" from her part every 4 months or so. About a year ago I realized that I liked her and we started dating, but everything went wrong, becouse even though I love her I am not a good boyfriend and she is alwyas getting mad at me to the point that she had started cutting herself again, for example, she is always mad becouse she says that I don't care abaout her and I don't show my love, that is becouse for some reason I only love her when I am with her, becouse if I'm alone or at home, I never feel like going out with her neither feel like I love her. She has been getting worse over the past year, and now is always saying that I am a bad person for not caring about her, and never knowing what to do (our conversations when she is mad at me are almost silent, becouse I always say the same shit that I never do, change) and that I am a bad friend for always going home or away when she needs me the most, becouse I am not good at sensing what others feel and at knowing when to do things or what to say. We have come to the point where she is over with me, and it's about to leave me even though she has always loved me.

I feel like this would be a good idea becouse I wouldn't be hurting her so much, with her as unstable as she is, almost thinking about suiciding at times, but there is something inside of me that still knows that I love her, and I don't want to let her go, but I'm too bad to know what to do, or even say (as usual)

Also a friend has started cutting herself becouse her life is really bad, her parents don't really love her, (they love her sisters though), she gets really bad marks, doesn't have many friends, ... I don't want to do the same mistakes as I did with my girlfriend when we were friends and she did this, becous at that time I did pretty much nothing more than recommending talking to a proffesional, and she still blames me for not knowing that she needed me, a hug, or something that would recomfort her, and calls me a bad person for it.

I am desperate for a solution, I can't even think properly, I want to scream.
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Ashtray Wasp wrote:I am sorry to bother you guys so much, but I need some advice or help, I've got a few problmes with my girlfriend I've never known how to overcome.

So the thing is, I've known my girlfirend for about 5 years, and we have been dating for only one, but she was in mad love about me in about the first year of friendship, and as I didn't correspond the love, she started cutting herself about three years ago, which was a high pressure to me, becouse I knew it was my fault and I didn't know what to do or say, I always get confused and don't know what to think in that kind of situation, also there was a constant "I love you, do you love me?" from her part every 4 months or so. About a year ago I realized that I liked her and we started dating, but everything went wrong, becouse even though I love her I am not a good boyfriend and she is alwyas getting mad at me to the point that she had started cutting herself again, for example, she is always mad becouse she says that I don't care abaout her and I don't show my love, that is becouse for some reason I only love her when I am with her, becouse if I'm alone or at home, I never feel like going out with her neither feel like I love her. She has been getting worse over the past year, and now is always saying that I am a bad person for not caring about her, and never knowing what to do (our conversations when she is mad at me are almost silent, becouse I always say the same shit that I never do, change) and that I am a bad friend for always going home or away when she needs me the most, becouse I am not good at sensing what others feel and at knowing when to do things or what to say. We have come to the point where she is over with me, and it's about to leave me even though she has always loved me.

I feel like this would be a good idea becouse I wouldn't be hurting her so much, with her as unstable as she is, almost thinking about suiciding at times, but there is something inside of me that still knows that I love her, and I don't want to let her go, but I'm too bad to know what to do, or even say (as usual)

Also a friend has started cutting herself becouse her life is really bad, her parents don't really love her, (they love her sisters though), she gets really bad marks, doesn't have many friends, ... I don't want to do the same mistakes as I did with my girlfriend when we were friends and she did this, becous at that time I did pretty much nothing more than recommending talking to a proffesional, and she still blames me for not knowing that she needed me, a hug, or something that would recomfort her, and calls me a bad person for it.

I am desperate for a solution, I can't even think properly, I want to scream.



"as I didn't correspond the love, she started cutting herself about three years ago"
"she is alwyas getting mad at me to the point that she had started cutting herself again, "
"and now is always saying I am a bad person for not caring about her, "
" I am not good at sensing what others feel and at knowing when to do things or what to say. "

ok im going to guess you are 14-18 years old
this behaviour is incredibly immature
i have highlighted things that jump out at me - this whole post is about HER problems and HER excuses for HER behaviour
you really need to take a step back away from these insecure girls with problems - THEIR problems are THEIR responsibility
you arent a bad person based on not being able to fix problems that you CANNOT FIX - thats up to them
hop off the drama llama go concentrate on yourself, this will not end well for you with either girl, quit while you are ahead

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I should probably clarify what im saying before anyone takes offence -
I am not saying cutting yourself in itself is immature, and i understand some people use that as a coping mechanism. HOWEVER - To cut yourself and blame it on someone else, and to burden someone else with that kind of unjustified guilt because *THEY* cant make *YOU* happy is bloody ridiculous

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i just got laid off...in the US's most expensive city. i need a new job yesterday! in a market where are no jobs. [animator/preferably games].

in this town...ill be homeless in no time. :(

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Ashtray Wasp wrote:I am sorry to bother you guys so much, but I need some advice or help, I've got a few problmes with my girlfriend I've never known how to overcome.

So the thing is, I've known my girlfirend for about 5 years, and we have been dating for only one, but she was in mad love about me in about the first year of friendship, and as I didn't correspond the love, she started cutting herself about three years ago, which was a high pressure to me, becouse I knew it was my fault and I didn't know what to do or say, I always get confused and don't know what to think in that kind of situation, also there was a constant "I love you, do you love me?" from her part every 4 months or so. About a year ago I realized that I liked her and we started dating, but everything went wrong, becouse even though I love her I am not a good boyfriend and she is alwyas getting mad at me to the point that she had started cutting herself again, for example, she is always mad becouse she says that I don't care abaout her and I don't show my love, that is becouse for some reason I only love her when I am with her, becouse if I'm alone or at home, I never feel like going out with her neither feel like I love her. She has been getting worse over the past year, and now is always saying that I am a bad person for not caring about her, and never knowing what to do (our conversations when she is mad at me are almost silent, becouse I always say the same shit that I never do, change) and that I am a bad friend for always going home or away when she needs me the most, becouse I am not good at sensing what others feel and at knowing when to do things or what to say. We have come to the point where she is over with me, and it's about to leave me even though she has always loved me.

I feel like this would be a good idea becouse I wouldn't be hurting her so much, with her as unstable as she is, almost thinking about suiciding at times, but there is something inside of me that still knows that I love her, and I don't want to let her go, but I'm too bad to know what to do, or even say (as usual)

Also a friend has started cutting herself becouse her life is really bad, her parents don't really love her, (they love her sisters though), she gets really bad marks, doesn't have many friends, ... I don't want to do the same mistakes as I did with my girlfriend when we were friends and she did this, becous at that time I did pretty much nothing more than recommending talking to a proffesional, and she still blames me for not knowing that she needed me, a hug, or something that would recomfort her, and calls me a bad person for it.

I am desperate for a solution, I can't even think properly, I want to scream.



"as I didn't correspond the love, she started cutting herself about three years ago"
"she is alwyas getting mad at me to the point that she had started cutting herself again, "
"and now is always saying I am a bad person for not caring about her, "
" I am not good at sensing what others feel and at knowing when to do things or what to say. "

ok im going to guess you are 14-18 years old
this behaviour is incredibly immature
i have highlighted things that jump out at me - this whole post is about HER problems and HER excuses for HER behaviour
you really need to take a step back away from these insecure girls with problems - THEIR problems are THEIR responsibility
you arent a bad person based on not being able to fix problems that you CANNOT FIX - thats up to them
hop off the drama llama go concentrate on yourself, this will not end well for you with either girl, quit while you are ahead


Yes I am 17, and so is she.

So I finally broke up with her, it was the worst of moments, as it was after a Math test, and a day without talking to her, but it had to be then or never, I was ready that moment, not her though, she didn't even let me finish, she just walked quickly while crying in the middle of the school corridor. I might have been a bad person for doing it at that moment, but I couldn't take it anymore.

Anyway, thanks for the quick response, really helped :D
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She just called me crying, asking why and, and now she is coming to my house to talk about it, but I am going to stay strong, and not come back with her becouse she is making me feel like the worst person ever.
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Ashtray wasp, well done you. Seriously. Dont buy into her guilt trips and - if shes going to go that far - suicide threats. Its not your fault even if she does take things that far. I suspect she wont though.If youve got genuine concerns about her harming herself then tell her parents.

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I recently went for a girl. didn't work out. I'm feeling pretty lonely now. I'm doing surprisingly well considering I have Bipolar Disorder. So there's that at least. It could be a lot worse.
Pain from my fibro myalgia is getting worse and worse as the years go by and i get older. I don't know what I'd do without my painkillers. I feel kinda cornered relying on them so much though.
Trying to stay positive. Can be hard some days.
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Turns out I'm not so strong, we have just been talking about that she only lives for me (while crying loudly) and that has nothing left to live, and we agreed that I am going to think about it becouse she think that making that decision in a day was not a good idea, although I don't think I'll be changing my mind, she makes things pretty difficult by doing that, I feel like it would be my fault if something happened to her, and by how unstable she is, she could do anything

And you are amazing 747 for living with that, keep the effort and things will be alrighty :)
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I am sorry to disapoint you guys, but it was too much pressure, I can't cope with that :(
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that sounds rough, man. it sounds like she is dealing with some serious mental issues that need attention. if something were to happen to her, be assured, it would not be your fault. it would not even be her fault. for someone who has dealt with suicidal thoughts within myself and within loved ones, i've come to the conclusion that its mental illness that is at fault 90% of the time. it really sounds like she needs help from a doctor. if she is feeling such extreme, unbalanced emotions, and is a danger to herself, she needs to admit herself to a hospital and seek help until the danger is releved enough that she can cope.

and thanks for the kind words.
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747Music wrote:that sounds rough, man. it sounds like she is dealing with some serious mental issues that need attention. if something were to happen to her, be assured, it would not be your fault. it would not even be her fault. for someone who has dealt with suicidal thoughts within myself and within loved ones, i've come to the conclusion that its mental illness that is at fault 90% of the time. it really sounds like she needs help from a doctor. if she is feeling such extreme, unbalanced emotions, and is a danger to herself, she needs to admit herself to a hospital and seek help until the danger is releved enough that she can cope.

and thanks for the kind words.

Yeah, I was telling her that she couldn't be like that, that your life can't depend on one person and nothing else, but I know how she is, and it will take a long time before she recovers, and I'm talking about years
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re-phaelam-ed wrote:i just got laid off...in the US's most expensive city. i need a new job yesterday! in a market where are no jobs. [animator/preferably games].

in this town...ill be homeless in no time. :(

Also get this man a job!

But seriusly mate, If it's one of the most expensive cities I am sure there are a lot of oportunities as well, you just got to search for them!

I'm sure you will be okay, just don't give up :D
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Ashtray Wasp wrote:
we have just been talking about that SHE only lives for me (while crying loudly)
WE agreed that I am going to think about it becouse SHE think that making that decision in a day was not a good idea
SHE makes things pretty difficult by doing that
I feel like it would be my fault if something happened to her, and by how unstable SHE is, SHE could do anything



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