drhumr wrote:Soul_Slip wrote:at least in that album Tycho used some actual downtempo electronic beats for some songs... rather than the same old upbeat dance version of fake lo-fi electronic tape music.... there was a newer song they released that sounded more experimental which was surprising considering Tycho sounds very "plugin-ish" and polished and "plasticy" in a way that causes me anxiety as a listener sometimes.... I saw them live and there was a "hidden" team of people on laptops near the left stage that were constantly sending samples to the controllers they were using.... it honestly made me sad as a musician and made me remember the BOC interview where one of the brothers mentions a well-known high priority electronic musician friend had once said he played a show live where he "pretended" to play instruments to a backing cassette mix with pre-recorded material........ it made me not repsect Tycho more than I already didn't.... lol There are other songs by Tycho that I really dig such as his very early more downtempo IDM experimental stuff, or like the song "Adrift".... that song to me is pure bliss.... but some others not so much..... I think he spent more time trying to capture only one type of aspect to what he liked about BOC rather than realizing that they put so much of a physical effort to achieve what we here... such as the brothers claiming in interviews that they rarely ever use physical effects boxes to achieve their weirdness... which completely blows me away haha o.O ....really? so most of the crazy effects on Geogaddi are not hardware effects but achieved through the recording process??? that blows me away haha... Tycho imho cannot fathom that level of musical achievement and prowess........
Dude, I'm afraid you're way off here. Maybe you just get a real kick out of bashing a band just for the hell of it.
How are Tycho "pretending to play instruments"? They perform as an actual four piece band, playing real instruments. Drums, bass, guitars, analog synths. Do they trigger the occasional sample (mainly pads and extra percussion)? Sure. But 95% of the live show is a pretty damn tight band doing its thing. If you really saw them live as you claim, you wouldn't have missed that.
Also as for Tycho sounding "plugin-ish" and "plasticy". Anyone who knows the first thing about gear will understand there's a (not so) small fortune hidden in Scott Hansen's studio just by looking at his Instagram. Vintage and modern top of the line recording equipment (Neve, SSL, UA, ELI etc.), lots of classic analog synths (Moog, Korg, Sequential etc.) and FX (Roland, Lexicon, Ursa Major). His sonic aesthetic may not be for you but by making these sweeping statements and vague and factually inaccurate assumptions you only prove that you're completely missing the point.
Don't get me wrong, I love BoC to death but this blind worshiping paired with this idea that Tycho's spent the past 13 years (since the release of the record you were referring to) trying to out-BoC the bros themselves... Come on.
And to stir the pot a little more, exactly how "live" do you think BoC's sporadic shows really were? Try to be a little objective.
Calm down dude... seriously, I wasn’t bashing Tycho, I like Tycho, was merely expressing my opinion even if you don’t agree with me. I saw 7 people with hundreds of samples and I wasn’t buying that single aspect... never nashed the other musicians as well... but again... my opinion... and while I obviously realize BoC mostly trigger samples live, I also understand their recording process of “said” samples which is extremely in depth and more experimental than anything I have heard maybe next to Aphex Twin... and I also do not believe that Tycho ever tried to compete with BoC... again your interpretation of what I said and I am not refuting his collection of gear... to “my” ears Tycho is plasticy sounding... which is ok... even if it doesn’t resonate with me... same with everything I said... it was ok that I thought that way same as how you think currently... now, I am not here to fight or argue man and you didn’t have to attack me