GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

[μasch]

i think they either are or aren't gonna release a new album, it really depends if they want to make music again or not.

I'm sure they're still making music. It's never been a question of that IMO.

They released music... Y'all just waiting for it to have the BoC stamp on there.

still waiting

[babylulu]

hiii i posted this on a different thread and was told to post it here so

Bocpages posted about a theory that the next album is going to be space inspired, but what I'm hoping for is an album that's inspired by folklore. The theory is that since TH is about the destruction of the world, they're going to make an album dealing thematically with the destruction of the universe/space. But I think it would be really cool to see BOC turn the clock even further back and make an album informed by folklore, something that could come out on Ghost Box. Along the lines of Sir Prancealot Brainfire and Forest Moon, I would love to see British countryside folklore take a spooky BOC turn.

[NTFMTS]

I like this idea a lot^

[Echelon]

So here's a question...what will the first IDM record be this year?

Could very be be BOC. Remember that guy who told us last August that the record was at the plant. That was a long time ago. And if you count the time span from August to May you'll find it's the length of a pregnancy. Which is what he told us could be the longest wait time.

[Josh]

Do I really have to have an IG account to read a zine that has BoC content? Is that really what's going on? Please tell me this isn't the case.

You don't even need to have an account to visit Instagram pages btw. Just open this on any browser: https://www.instagram.com/stargate_zine/ and you can see its content.

Yes, thank you. I did figure that out. I was just a little weirded out by the whole "zine on IG" thing. I'm a geezer, not as old as M&M, but old enough to remember when zines were a niche thing. You found out about them through word of mouth, maybe on USENET, or a BBS, and you sent a check or money order to a post office box and then waited My initial reaction was a bit hostile, but I calmed down once I realized it wasn't restricted to IG.

Anyway, this Stargate zine seems interesting. I have no idea what BoC is providing for content, but I'm looking forward to it.

[Fredd-E]

Yes, thank you. I did figure that out. I was just a little weirded out by the whole "zine on IG" thing. I'm a geezer, not as old as M&M, but old enough to remember when zines were a niche thing. You found out about them through word of mouth, maybe on USENET, or a BBS, and you sent a check or money order to a post office box and then waited My initial reaction was a bit hostile, but I calmed down once I realized it wasn't restricted to IG.

Anyway, this Stargate zine seems interesting. I have no idea what BoC is providing for content, but I'm looking forward to it.

Yesterday I posted a quote from a 2005 interview on my instagram account and whilst browsing the same interview for other possible fun quotes I found this very interesting one:

My interview with Boards Of Canada is their third before the release of the new album "The Campfire Headphase" and thus they have done more interviews in a week than they have in the last eight years. After "Music Has the Right to Children" they got tired of being misinterpreted and therefore started communicating with the outside world only via email. Although not without restrictions. Excluding a mail interview with NME, they chose not to talk to any major magazines but instead gave smaller, more niche music magazines the opportunity to "talk" to them. The band then discovered that even silence and email interviews can be misinterpreted.

https://bocpages.org/wiki/De_var_forst_med

[rodox_head]

Do I really have to have an IG account to read a zine that has BoC content? Is that really what's going on? Please tell me this isn't the case.

You don't even need to have an account to visit Instagram pages btw. Just open this on any browser: https://www.instagram.com/stargate_zine/ and you can see its content.

Really? Whenever I visit, either mobile or desktop, I get hit with the request to sign in to view further. Same goes for twitter which I could swear wasn't like that a few months ago.

[deadfly]

Do I really have to have an IG account to read a zine that has BoC content? Is that really what's going on? Please tell me this isn't the case.

You don't even need to have an account to visit Instagram pages btw. Just open this on any browser: https://www.instagram.com/stargate_zine/ and you can see its content.

Really? Whenever I visit, either mobile or desktop, I get hit with the request to sign in to view further. Same goes for twitter which I could swear wasn't like that a few months ago.

There's a link that goes here:

https://linkr.bio/Infinitoaudio

[rodox_head]

There's a link that goes here:

https://linkr.bio/Infinitoaudio

Thank you

[Orbited insanitarium]

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.

[babylulu]

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.

where are those brothers?!

[Echelon]

Wish it was May already. Imagine they drop the album randomly with a single interview? The total inverse of Tomorrow's Harvest

[Fredd-E]

Do I really have to have an IG account to read a zine that has BoC content? Is that really what's going on? Please tell me this isn't the case.

You don't even need to have an account to visit Instagram pages btw. Just open this on any browser: https://www.instagram.com/stargate_zine/ and you can see its content.

Really? Whenever I visit, either mobile or desktop, I get hit with the request to sign in to view further. Same goes for twitter which I could swear wasn't like that a few months ago.

Weird, because when I open a private browser tab I do get the page with its content and a dismissible banner at the bottom:

[Fredd-E]

Wish it was May already. Imagine they drop the album randomly with a single interview? The total inverse of Tomorrow's Harvest

That would actually be pretty cool. This also falls in line with their online activity.
You could split that into two big sections:

1) August 2001 - December 2015: Statements from HS
2) January 2016 - Now: Timeline

In the first part they still talked directly to their fans; plenty of statements by MDG listed on the wiki. Since the second part they started liking social media posts but mainly radio silence for the rest.

So what if they started hyper focusing on LP5 in 2016?
Minimal communication. Drop it without much fanfare.

aka: the anti TH approach

PS: thanks for brainstorming on this one Biznasty and Echelon
PS2: could also just be MDG being tired of posting on the forums

[Orbited insanitarium]

Had a thought earlier, with four weeks to go until zine publication, I imagine there will be a fair share of promotion posts for it on their page.
Considering that BoC are the second listed on the cover, it's unlikely if it's an interview for LP5 that BoC will allow them to do some before hand teasing. Like this
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca6Q_y6gieq/?hl=en

So in a way, the less we hear about the feature from stargate, the more promising this seems for BoC.
Is this simple logic or am I going ruddy crazy?

Still, I'm glad to be part of the groovy gang!

[Navaru]

I’m just a giddy gus, can’t wait to see what’s next

[mthrndr]

If you look at MDG's posts before TH, he was wrong multiple times about when the album was coming. My guess is that he stopped communicating because he simply doesn't know when something might show up and doesn't want to give false hope again.

[Biznasty]

If you look at MDG's posts before TH, he was wrong multiple times about when the album was coming. My guess is that he stopped communicating because he simply doesn't know when something might show up and doesn't want to give false hope again.

After scanning the mdg quotes, it seems he only ever said a date for TH's release once: in '09 when he said it was coming out in 2010. Before that all he ever said was that it was coming, and afterwards he sent one pre-TH message that was related to TH but only said that the previous albums would be repressed when it came out.

I suspect TH was simply delayed. However, 3 years is a very long time to delay a finished album... Maybe they decided it wasn't done, or they had some sort of family emergency, or any number of things could've happened... At the end of the day it doesn't really matter and I don't care why it was delayed.

Point is mdg isn't just some guy, he is/was essentially BoC's direct line of communication. I highly doubt he would ever post something that Mike and Marcus didn't approve. Having said that I don't think wrongfully saying TH was going to release in 2010 was part of some grand scheme or anything. They probably did plan on releasing it in 2010 but changed their plans. How would mdg even know to say 2010 if the brothers hadn't told him that? Why would he, after 5 years of saying its coming, decide then to pull 2010 out of his ass if it wasn't at the time true... After that though, they most likely decided to not say anything, simply so they don't make that same mistake again. Now, they (for lack of a better word) string us along with minute pings of activity to ensure us that they are working, but not give away any information.

In the past few years they've given us plenty of info though

[NorthSaturnian]

he simply doesn't know when something might show up and doesn't want to give false hope again.

no one at hexagon sun knows

the older compilations being circulated at the moment are quite likely to be re-released in the near future complete with their original artwork

Warp and BOC have been in talks for a long while about putting out a box set of old tracks from these tapes and others, with new packaging and art, to be released sometime after the forthcoming record

[Biznasty]

Hi everyone, I sure hope you like reading.

Here's my full current theory for the next release, since I don't think I've said it in detail on here before.

I still suspect the next release will be the BoCset.

In 2008 mdg said in the famous "99% likely to happen" comment that "there's a new album coming out first". I always see people saying that BoC never tell us anything and they're so cryptic nowadays but they've already told us everything they need to... A new album (which obviously turned out to be Tomorrow's Harvest) is coming out, and then the BoCset. They've already told us that's what's next.

As for why it's been so long, well it's still pretty obvious to me.

It took them 8 years to make TH, but that was 8 years of self-imposed decreased studio time, becoming parents, having a life, redesigning their studio, and one of them moving to New Zealand for a while. Of course it took as long as it did... The big one though, is that BoC are perfectionists.

Additionally, in many of mdg's comments about the BoCset, he says that there's hundreds of songs per year that don’t make the cut. Now, I suspect that 1) he's exaggerating a bit, and 2) they aren't all full tracks. Many of them are probably 30 second riff ideas they recorded and shelved. Still, that's a lot of music to go through. Between the mythical five, the unreleased live songs, and the three old tunes tapes we have, they obviously do a lot of unreleased music, so I'll fully believe they have hundreds more on top of those.

So knowing just how much music they have, and adding on all the reasons I said that they have less studio time, and (the big one) that they are perfectionists, of course this is going to take a long time…

It should also be said that they wouldn’t spend all their studio time doing this. In ‘08 mdg said it was “an ongoing process in the background”. They started working through their archives in 2005 according to mdg, which means it's been 17 years since they started this. They also started production on Tomorrow’s Harvest directly after TCH as well, so work on the old tapes was probably few and far between. Even now they probably spend plenty of time also working on new ideas as well, which would again only delay the release of it even more.

‘Knowing’ BoC, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were going as far as to recreate many of their old songs to have them in better quality, on top of most likely editing and adding onto almost all of them. Richard’s soundcloud dump was probably the laziest way of releasing old music. Don’t worry I’m not shitting on him or his dump , I love so many of those tracks. But BoC would want to make sure their old music was in the best quality and presentation possible. Ripping a moldy cassette and throwing it on a secret soundcloud account doesn’t really qualify for quality…

Speaking of presentation, mdg said in 2007 that they had been working on putting their old music into 'chapters', which doesn't tell us a lot, but it says to me that they are putting a great deal of effort into the organization of it. The most notable activity from them recently is obviously the Pioneer banner which, if the nuclear banner for TH was anything to go off of, is a hint towards what’s next. The point of the Pioneer Plaque was to act as a record of humanity for other civilizations. That’s a perfect theme for presenting their old music.

Someone else's theory was that they uploaded the Pioneer banner as a way of saying the album was finished. Well I’ll add on and say that a year later, the deepfake vid could’ve been to say that it was approved or entering the production queue. The record industry is in shambles right now trying to work through a ghastly backlog and production scale back, all the while fighting an increasing demand. On top of that, that random commenter who claimed to have talked to one of the brothers said they have multiple records in the works. This BoCset would be massive so yeah ‘multiple records’ lines up. Also a release of this size would take a looooooong ass time to make physically, lmao.

I can’t find the actual comment, but apparently in 2011 PIC said they were working on multiple projects. Well they already told us, and everyone apparently forgot, that they started on the BoCset and Tomorrow’s Harvest at pretty much the same time…

Lastly, I think the inclusion of the short BoC minimix inside SxT, as well as the web loop version of Open The Light sample in Treat Em Right were done as hints. Reworking their old music, but stuff we’ve already heard because they don’t want to spoil anything.

(Side note, speaking of the Treat Em Right remix: Lex Records said it took months to receive the remix. That was one song… That right there is a pretty clear indication of how fast they work. No shit a backlog of hundreds of tracks is going to take them years).

As for the two contested Adult Swim bumps, I think they are BoC but I don’t really have any specific theory for how they relate or if they mean anything other than that it’s secret BoC music. Maybe we’ll hear those songs in the BoCset or maybe we won’t.

Maybe I’m just an optimistic new fan, but I strongly think we’ll get some really good news this year… May is just around the corner and I hope stargate proves fruitful. Every artist featured on the cover of their previous issues had an interview. The second issue had a multi-page write up on the Beastie Boys but they weren’t mentioned on the cover. I think it’s very very likely there’s an interview coming our way in May.

So, in conclusion, rev up those fryers, because I am sure hungry for one boccy plox.

TL;DR micus said 34 million years ago they were making the bocset so it HAS TO HAPPEN NOW THEY WOULDNT LIE TO US!!!!!!!111111111111111111