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they should disown their families and only focus on releasing music
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I have no reason for posting apart from bumping this amazing write up to the next page. Detailed lengthyness at it's finest biznasty!

You're looking at the post of the year ya cheeky scamps! :wink:

Biznasty wrote:Hi everyone, I sure hope you like reading.

Here's my full current theory for the next release, since I don't think I've said it in detail on here before.

I still suspect the next release will be the BoCset.

In 2008 mdg said in the famous "99% likely to happen" comment that "there's a new album coming out first". I always see people saying that BoC never tell us anything and they're so cryptic nowadays but they've already told us everything they need to... A new album (which obviously turned out to be Tomorrow's Harvest) is coming out, and then the BoCset. They've already told us that's what's next. :D

As for why it's been so long, well it's still pretty obvious to me.

It took them 8 years to make TH, but that was 8 years of self-imposed decreased studio time, becoming parents, having a life, redesigning their studio, and one of them moving to New Zealand for a while. Of course it took as long as it did... The big one though, is that BoC are perfectionists.

Additionally, in many of mdg's comments about the BoCset, he says that there's hundreds of songs per year that don’t make the cut. Now, I suspect that 1) he's exaggerating a bit, and 2) they aren't all full tracks. Many of them are probably 30 second riff ideas they recorded and shelved. Still, that's a lot of music to go through. Between the mythical five, the unreleased live songs, and the three old tunes tapes we have, they obviously do a lot of unreleased music, so I'll fully believe they have hundreds more on top of those.

So knowing just how much music they have, and adding on all the reasons I said that they have less studio time, and (the big one) that they are perfectionists, of course this is going to take a long time…

It should also be said that they wouldn’t spend all their studio time doing this. In ‘08 mdg said it was “an ongoing process in the background”. They started working through their archives in 2005 according to mdg, which means it's been 17 years since they started this. They also started production on Tomorrow’s Harvest directly after TCH as well, so work on the old tapes was probably few and far between. Even now they probably spend plenty of time also working on new ideas as well, which would again only delay the release of it even more.

‘Knowing’ BoC, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were going as far as to recreate many of their old songs to have them in better quality, on top of most likely editing and adding onto almost all of them. Richard’s soundcloud dump was probably the laziest way of releasing old music. Don’t worry I’m not shitting on him or his dump :lol:, I love so many of those tracks. But BoC would want to make sure their old music was in the best quality and presentation possible. Ripping a moldy cassette and throwing it on a secret soundcloud account doesn’t really qualify for quality…

Speaking of presentation, mdg said in 2007 that they had been working on putting their old music into 'chapters', which doesn't tell us a lot, but it says to me that they are putting a great deal of effort into the organization of it. The most notable activity from them recently is obviously the Pioneer banner which, if the nuclear banner for TH was anything to go off of, is a hint towards what’s next. The point of the Pioneer Plaque was to act as a record of humanity for other civilizations. That’s a perfect theme for presenting their old music.

Someone else's theory was that they uploaded the Pioneer banner as a way of saying the album was finished. Well I’ll add on and say that a year later, the deepfake vid could’ve been to say that it was approved or entering the production queue. The record industry is in shambles right now trying to work through a ghastly backlog and production scale back, all the while fighting an increasing demand. On top of that, that random commenter who claimed to have talked to one of the brothers said they have multiple records in the works. This BoCset would be massive so yeah ‘multiple records’ lines up. Also a release of this size would take a looooooong ass time to make physically, lmao.

I can’t find the actual comment, but apparently in 2011 PIC said they were working on multiple projects. Well they already told us, and everyone apparently forgot, that they started on the BoCset and Tomorrow’s Harvest at pretty much the same time…

Lastly, I think the inclusion of the short BoC minimix inside SxT, as well as the web loop version of Open The Light sample in Treat Em Right were done as hints. Reworking their old music, but stuff we’ve already heard because they don’t want to spoil anything.

(Side note, speaking of the Treat Em Right remix: Lex Records said it took months to receive the remix. That was one song… That right there is a pretty clear indication of how fast they work. No shit a backlog of hundreds of tracks is going to take them years).

As for the two contested Adult Swim bumps, I think they are BoC but I don’t really have any specific theory for how they relate or if they mean anything other than that it’s secret BoC music. Maybe we’ll hear those songs in the BoCset or maybe we won’t.

Maybe I’m just an optimistic new fan, but I strongly think we’ll get some really good news this year… May is just around the corner and I hope stargate proves fruitful. Every artist featured on the cover of their previous issues had an interview. The second issue had a multi-page write up on the Beastie Boys but they weren’t mentioned on the cover. I think it’s very very likely there’s an interview coming our way in May.

So, in conclusion, rev up those fryers, because I am sure hungry for one boccy plox.

TL;DR micus said 34 million years ago they were making the bocset so it HAS TO HAPPEN NOW THEY WOULDNT LIE TO US!!!!!!!111111111111111111


Jeez lad, hope it was a copy/paste! :D
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Agreed, that was a nice take by the Biz.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?
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Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Iced Cooly... could this be legitimate?


Sounds interesting, I'll take a full listen later.

One thing to note is that the comment section is all full of comments related to BoC, all very recent.
If I may ask how you came across this upload?
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Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Iced Cooly... could this be legitimate?


Sounds interesting, I'll take a full listen later.

One thing to note is that the comment section is all full of comments related to BoC, all very recent.
If I may ask how you came across this upload?

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The part at 14:20ish is definitely a BoC song, but it's a slightly altered version. I'm skeptical that the VHS tape is authentic though. I think someone is trolling.

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Davism wrote:The part at 14:20ish is definitely a BoC song, but it's a slightly altered version. I'm skeptical that the VHS tape is authentic though. I think someone is trolling.

There are multiple BOC tracks. XYZ at the 3 minute mark, Seeya Later at the 24:50 mark, Boqurant at 14:20, 5.9.78 at 28:42
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babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



The tape features a sample for a ‘Eureka Express’ vacuum commercial at ‘Redondo Vacuum and Janitorial’. Redondo is a city in California. There was a Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party in Lake Dolores, California. If this tape was purchased “a few or more years ago”, it’s very possible it could’ve been from 2013 around the time of the Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party.
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Not to shut down discussion but I think you guys are ignoring the ridiculous 'origin story' of this tape..

Someone donated a VHS tape with a BoC mixtape on it, inside a The Shining cover? Then this person, after not touching it for two years, decided to digitize it after being disappointed it wasn't The Shining...?

I'll take things that didn't happen for 200, Alex.

Cool tunes. Not BoC.

We're reaching Ben Drowned creepypasta levels of origin stories here.
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babylulu wrote:
babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



The tape features a sample for a ‘Eureka Express’ vacuum at ‘Redondo Vacuum and Janitorial’. Redondo is a city in California. There was a Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party in Lake Dolores, California. If this tape was purchased “a few or more years ago”, it’s very possible it could’ve been from 2013 around the time of the Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party.


Shall I be honest with you? That might be jumping a little far fetched.

Don't forget, here on twoism we have seen our fair share of fakes and hoaxes. So we are inevitably quite skeptical about this stuff.

But I'm sure the merry band online right now will be happy to help when it comes to this stuff. :wink:
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babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



The tape features a sample for a ‘Eureka Express’ vacuum at ‘Redondo Vacuum and Janitorial’. Redondo is a city in California. There was a Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party in Lake Dolores, California. If this tape was purchased “a few or more years ago”, it’s very possible it could’ve been from 2013 around the time of the Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party.


Shall I be honest with you? That might be jumping a little far fetched.

Don't forget, here on twoism we have seen our fair share of fakes and hoaxes. So we are inevitably quite skeptical about this stuff.

But I'm sure the merry band online right now will be happy to help. :wink:

I’m as skeptical as everyone else, but any content and drama is welcome considering the 9 year drought
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babylulu wrote:
babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



The tape features a sample for a ‘Eureka Express’ vacuum commercial at ‘Redondo Vacuum and Janitorial’. Redondo is a city in California. There was a Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party in Lake Dolores, California. If this tape was purchased “a few or more years ago”, it’s very possible it could’ve been from 2013 around the time of the Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party.


This actually feels probable. They mentioned something about music being out there for someone to find, or something like that, right?

Either way, this has some good stuff on it and I would like more please.

What if one of the sounds at the beginning of Societas X Tape was actually a recording of a Eureka Express vacuum? :)
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babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



The tape features a sample for a ‘Eureka Express’ vacuum commercial at ‘Redondo Vacuum and Janitorial’. Redondo is a city in California. There was a Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party in Lake Dolores, California. If this tape was purchased “a few or more years ago”, it’s very possible it could’ve been from 2013 around the time of the Tomorrow’s Harvest listening party.


This actually feels probable. They mentioned something about music being out there for someone to find, or something like that, right?

Either way, this has some good stuff on it and I would like more please.

What if one of the sounds at the beginning of Societas X Tape was actually a recording of a Eureka Express vacuum? :)

Besides, they’re known for creating alternate Youtube accounts to post rarities.
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babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?



Since I'm fairly new, I'm going to go ahead and say that this is authentic BOC. If I'm wrong, it's only because I'm new.

But if I'm right... It's because I'm an integral part of the prophecy.
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babylulu wrote:I’m as skeptical as everyone else, but any content and drama is welcome considering the 9 year drought


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Perfectly alright to get excited but remember to take that grain of salt with you.
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babylulu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Has this been talked about yet? It is supposedly a random tape found at a thrift store by a worker, there are multiple Boards songs on it. Different versions of Boards songs. Boqurant, XYZ, Seeya Later.. could this be legitimate?

Pretty clear from the very first track on there that it's not unreleased BOC. Fakes mixed with a couple of Old Tunes tracks.

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Sounds like someone trying to get featured in the next Whang video. The whole "spooky blank tape in a thrift shop" concept is so fucking played out by now that I don't believe BoC would do this kind of thing at all.
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Y'see we're a hard bunch to convince. :lol:

If you like, you could set up a topic about this, it's maybe better to concentrate the discussion in one place.


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Just want to reiterate this is all purely speculative, and could simply be a fan project. Nothing I post regarding this tape is for certain, and I am just as speculative as the rest of you.
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