GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

[Sky and Trails]

Y'see we're a hard bunch to convince.

If you like, you could set up a topic about this, it's maybe better to concentrate the discussion in one place.


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Yes. This. Please.

This goes along with that Whitehorse stuff. I like it and I want more. Yes, it's greedy, but I must have more music at all times.

[Echelon]

I'd rather focus on the actual BOC feature coming up soon, whether interview or article.

That or Biz's awesome post. Ever since the Catherine Fell incident I've become skeptical to all "secret tapes" and random drones found on YouTube.

But hey if this keeps people busy til May well then what the hey.

[Brendan Standing Alone]

WHAT IS THIS????????

Sorry, been away far too long and didn’t see this posted yet. (Unless I missed it.)

Thrift Store-Found uploaded to YouTube 2 month’s ago. (Only 500 views.) BOC?

https://youtu.be/4cJxgXDT_ps

[Sky and Trails]

I'd rather focus on the actual BOC feature coming up soon, whether interview or article.

That or Biz's awesome post. Ever since the Catherine Fell incident I've become skeptical to all "secret tapes" and random drones found on YouTube.

But hey if this keeps people busy til May well then what the hey.

Biz's post was great. Got me super excited. And then this whole thing with a thrift store tape.

It's like finishing a great show and immediately finding out there's a movie or another season waiting for you that you didn't expect.

[Orbited insanitarium]

Well gawd knows what this place'll look like when a release happens.

Nighty-night - Orbited.

[Fredd-E]

Hi everyone, I sure hope you like reading.

Here's my full current theory for the next release, since I don't think I've said it in detail on here before.

I still suspect the next release will be the BoCset.

In 2008 mdg said in the famous "99% likely to happen" comment that "there's a new album coming out first". I always see people saying that BoC never tell us anything and they're so cryptic nowadays but they've already told us everything they need to... A new album (which obviously turned out to be Tomorrow's Harvest) is coming out, and then the BoCset. They've already told us that's what's next.

As for why it's been so long, well it's still pretty obvious to me.

It took them 8 years to make TH, but that was 8 years of self-imposed decreased studio time, becoming parents, having a life, redesigning their studio, and one of them moving to New Zealand for a while. Of course it took as long as it did... The big one though, is that BoC are perfectionists.

Additionally, in many of mdg's comments about the BoCset, he says that there's hundreds of songs per year that don’t make the cut. Now, I suspect that 1) he's exaggerating a bit, and 2) they aren't all full tracks. Many of them are probably 30 second riff ideas they recorded and shelved. Still, that's a lot of music to go through. Between the mythical five, the unreleased live songs, and the three old tunes tapes we have, they obviously do a lot of unreleased music, so I'll fully believe they have hundreds more on top of those.

So knowing just how much music they have, and adding on all the reasons I said that they have less studio time, and (the big one) that they are perfectionists, of course this is going to take a long time…

It should also be said that they wouldn’t spend all their studio time doing this. In ‘08 mdg said it was “an ongoing process in the background”. They started working through their archives in 2005 according to mdg, which means it's been 17 years since they started this. They also started production on Tomorrow’s Harvest directly after TCH as well, so work on the old tapes was probably few and far between. Even now they probably spend plenty of time also working on new ideas as well, which would again only delay the release of it even more.

‘Knowing’ BoC, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were going as far as to recreate many of their old songs to have them in better quality, on top of most likely editing and adding onto almost all of them. Richard’s soundcloud dump was probably the laziest way of releasing old music. Don’t worry I’m not shitting on him or his dump , I love so many of those tracks. But BoC would want to make sure their old music was in the best quality and presentation possible. Ripping a moldy cassette and throwing it on a secret soundcloud account doesn’t really qualify for quality…

Speaking of presentation, mdg said in 2007 that they had been working on putting their old music into 'chapters', which doesn't tell us a lot, but it says to me that they are putting a great deal of effort into the organization of it. The most notable activity from them recently is obviously the Pioneer banner which, if the nuclear banner for TH was anything to go off of, is a hint towards what’s next. The point of the Pioneer Plaque was to act as a record of humanity for other civilizations. That’s a perfect theme for presenting their old music.

Someone else's theory was that they uploaded the Pioneer banner as a way of saying the album was finished. Well I’ll add on and say that a year later, the deepfake vid could’ve been to say that it was approved or entering the production queue. The record industry is in shambles right now trying to work through a ghastly backlog and production scale back, all the while fighting an increasing demand. On top of that, that random commenter who claimed to have talked to one of the brothers said they have multiple records in the works. This BoCset would be massive so yeah ‘multiple records’ lines up. Also a release of this size would take a looooooong ass time to make physically, lmao.

I can’t find the actual comment, but apparently in 2011 PIC said they were working on multiple projects. Well they already told us, and everyone apparently forgot, that they started on the BoCset and Tomorrow’s Harvest at pretty much the same time…

Lastly, I think the inclusion of the short BoC minimix inside SxT, as well as the web loop version of Open The Light sample in Treat Em Right were done as hints. Reworking their old music, but stuff we’ve already heard because they don’t want to spoil anything.

(Side note, speaking of the Treat Em Right remix: Lex Records said it took months to receive the remix. That was one song… That right there is a pretty clear indication of how fast they work. No shit a backlog of hundreds of tracks is going to take them years).

As for the two contested Adult Swim bumps, I think they are BoC but I don’t really have any specific theory for how they relate or if they mean anything other than that it’s secret BoC music. Maybe we’ll hear those songs in the BoCset or maybe we won’t.

Maybe I’m just an optimistic new fan, but I strongly think we’ll get some really good news this year… May is just around the corner and I hope stargate proves fruitful. Every artist featured on the cover of their previous issues had an interview. The second issue had a multi-page write up on the Beastie Boys but they weren’t mentioned on the cover. I think it’s very very likely there’s an interview coming our way in May.

So, in conclusion, rev up those fryers, because I am sure hungry for one boccy plox.

TL;DR micus said 34 million years ago they were making the bocset so it HAS TO HAPPEN NOW THEY WOULDNT LIE TO US!!!!!!!111111111111111111

Excellent summary! Added this one to the sticky topic.

[Echelon]

Biz raised an excellent point with all the artists on the cover being interviewed. This gives me a lot of confidence we are in for something special.

I hope the two projects are a bocset and the next album! There are multiple things coming according to that one guy biz mentioned.

[Sky and Trails]

Well gawd knows what this place'll look like when a release happens.

Nighty-night - Orbited.

It'll look like a gigantic and terrifyingly beautiful kaleidescopic Geogaddi effigy spraying embers into the stratosphere, punctuated by all BOC fans being too nervous to accept that it's really real this time

Nighty night

[supdudes]

Just came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Definitely one of the more authentic sounding "fakes" I've heard. Not every single track sounds BoC, but many just have that perfect BoC feel. What's also weird is that the known BoC tracks are different versions - like they aren't just the BoC song run through some filter or something. There seem to be subtle differences that could only happen by recreating the song.

[SamuraiDrifter]

Just came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJxgXDT_ps

Definitely one of the more authentic sounding "fakes" I've heard. Not every single track sounds BoC, but many just have that perfect BoC feel. What's also weird is that the known BoC tracks are different versions - like they aren't just the BoC song run through some filter or something. There seem to be subtle differences that could only happen by recreating the song.

To me this sounds like some obvious BOC fakes with a couple of Old Tunes mixed in.

And I can't help but notice there are a bunch of people with no history in the community dropping out of nowhere to link the video.

[Negamuse]

Yeah, someone doing their best R35/Old tunes era impression I think, and throwing in a couple of covers for good measure. I particularly like the track that's just the theme from Antiques Roadshow played backwards

Fake, but fun.

[Sky and Trails]

Yeah, someone doing their best R35/Old tunes era impression I think, and throwing in a couple of covers for good measure. I particularly like the track that's just the theme from Antiques Roadshow played backwards

Fake, but fun.

Damnit. If you've already listened to it all backward and found Antique Roadshow, I'm disappointed. That seems like an unlikely thing for BOC to sample or do.

[Sky and Trails]

And I can't help but notice there are a bunch of people with no history in the community dropping out of nowhere to link the video.

I'm new here, but do people really go to these lengths for a fake?

I'm not going to lie... That fucking pisses me off!

[Brendan Standing Alone]

The “thrift store” VHS tape backstory was unnecessary. Way too cliché.

[rodox_head]

And I can't help but notice there are a bunch of people with no history in the community dropping out of nowhere to link the video.

I'm new here, but do people really go to these lengths for a fake?

I'm not going to lie... That fucking pisses me off!

The "erratas" story about people getting kidnapped by the government or whatever for searching said word was made up for someone's noise music bandcamp, or am I getting my internet mysteries mixed up. The same was probably the case for the KanyeQuest/Acensionism cult thing as I think there was a bandcamp profile in that story somewhere too.

Again, the whole ARG component to advertising is so played out by this point that it usually comes across as condescending and insulting to me.

[Echelon]

I can guarantee one thing about the next BOC release. It will once again outsmart all these imitators and the imitators themselves will spend the next decade trying to clone their new sound. And then in 2034 the cycle will begin again with the next BOC album.

The true reason BOC take so long: they gotta keep reinventing their wheel because of fakes.

[Sky and Trails]

Wow.

So there's basically a whole sub-community of people doing this shit?

I don't know why, but that's it.

I can't reiterate this enough: if you're capable of producing music good enough to rile up this fanbase, then you need to own up to it because that's serious fucking talent!

Why would anyone pursue to be as obscure as BOC? What's the point? Nobody will ever know who you are. If anyone finds out, you're immediately discredited for being a copycat. The ARG thing is annoying when perpetrated by a fan.

All I'm asking is for creators of great music to take credit for their work. And then let me have a copy so i can continue to immerse myself in a world of music

I'm sorry for speaking up so much about this. I know there's probably a hierarchy that I'm but yet privy to since I'm fairly new here, but I feed off the sometimes fanatical BOC-fan hive mind.

Aside from my rambling, i also desperately want ALL of these amazing musical pieces to be from BOC.

And i agree... ARG = condescending at this point.

[Echelon]

Wow.

So there's basically a whole sub-community of people doing this shit?

I don't know why, but that's it.

I can't reiterate this enough: if you're capable of producing music good enough to rile up this fanbase, then you need to own up to it because that's serious fucking talent!

Why would anyone pursue to be as obscure as BOC? What's the point? Nobody will ever know who you are. If anyone finds out, you're immediately discredited for being a copycat. The ARG thing is annoying when perpetrated by a fan.

All I'm asking is for creators of great music to take credit for their work. And then let me have a copy so i can continue to immerse myself in a world of music

I'm sorry for speaking up so much about this. I know there's probably a hierarchy that I'm but yet privy to since I'm fairly new here, but I feed off the sometimes fanatical BOC-fan hive mind.

Aside from my rambling, i also desperately want ALL of these amazing musical pieces to be from BOC.

And i agree... ARG = condescending at this point.

I fully agree with this post. If you've got talent to make quality electronic music, you should be confident and stand on your own two feet and who knows, maybe Warp might hire you. That's what happened with people like Bibio and Oneohtrix who are quite BOC like without being BOC. They've got their own individual identities and that's what make them great artists

And yeah I can guarantee with all the fake args we've seen since 2020 that BOC aren't going to do another. Whatever they do last they pivot away from. Plus some people took the Tomorrow's Harvest ARG too far and thought it was still going on after it ended

[SamuraiDrifter]

I'm new here, but do people really go to these lengths for a fake?

I'm not going to lie... That fucking pisses me off!

Oh, absolutely.

Random people trying to pass off their stuff as BOC, usually by coming up with some "mysterious" story about how they "discovered" the music and using a bunch of smurf accounts to spread rumors about it here and on Reddit is a common occurrence. It's really annoying.

Nothing makes me *less* likely to check out someone's music than when they try to hype it up in such a corny and dishonest way. I used to have more patience for this, but after the fifth "omg guys I found this mysterious tape do you think it's BOC?!? [generic IDM or vaporwave with some wobbly synths]" I'm fresh out of tolerance and I just wish they'd get an artistic identity of their own and some original ideas.

As Boards themselves said in response to the Chameleon fake a few years ago, "diet coke green screen failure."

[Sky and Trails]

That's infuriating!

It certainly makes me instantly doubt the creator of the music if they're going to hide behind or misuse BOC's scarcity/obscurity.

Unless their objective is to get the base so riled up that it forces BOC to release everything they've got. But i highly doubt that's the case.

I believe it's like you've said, and they're simply jumping onto something.