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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


The whole TH is a basically one big horror movie soundtrack. I can see them going full circle and influence the movies itself. For example some movie called Sinister

https://youtu.be/hQJlQeJr1Q8?si=HMKj7Q595J6iQ_J4

They would also feet with some sci-fi genre, I just wish they would release something new. Or the pre-twoism back catalogue



TH is likely the soundtrack of our current reality sadly. The soundtrack of a nonfiction movie. It doesn't have to be, but it will continue to be unless the human species can change its current vector trajectory sufficiently.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


The whole TH is a basically one big horror movie soundtrack. I can see them going full circle and influence the movies itself. For example some movie called Sinister

https://youtu.be/hQJlQeJr1Q8?si=HMKj7Q595J6iQ_J4

They would also feet with some sci-fi genre, I just wish they would release something new. Or the pre-twoism back catalogue



TH is likely the soundtrack of our current reality sadly. The soundtrack of a nonfiction movie. It doesn't have to be, but it will continue to be unless the human species can change its current vector trajectory sufficiently.


I have a bad feeling that it’s already being set in stone, we just watching it unfolding in real time.

Question, how did they know, years before and why they decided to share it with us
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From the interview (translated): Two Aesthetes of Electronic Music

"The name of the group comes from the soundtrack of one of the nature films that had such a big influence on our childhood. That's our nostalgic side. But there's also a more raucous side, harder, and darker. Our music is born from a strange union of the air of childhood and more troubled feelings, representing a more terrible reality which blends paradoxically with our childhood dreams."

Though an older interview, I think this should help shed some light on your question.


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People knew life on Earth (as we know it) was in trouble more than 50 years ago...
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I don't believe it. Was a believer when I was in the 3rd grade. Where I live right now, we are basically freezing and would freeze to death if not greengas fuel.

What I believe is government systems ability to control the narrative. In other words mind control. Especially in the west, or from the west. I thought BOC touched on that, I would love to know more. But if nothing happens, I'm ok with that. They showed enough to understand at least a small part of that.
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Unfortunately, facts don't care about your belief. If it weren't for human invention of science, you wouldn't have a computer/device by which to communicate that you "don't believe it".

Listen to what Carl Sagan had to say to the US Congress in 1985...

On the other hand, the Trinity site event would not have occurred on July 16th 1945 if it weren't for scientific research. Scientific discovery can certainly be a double-edged sword.


Marcus from an interview:

What's the significance of hexagons to you?

Marcus: The hexagon theme represents that whole idea of being able to see reality for what it is, the raw maths or patterns that make everything. We've always been interested in science and maths. Sometimes music or art or drugs can pull back the curtain for you and reveal the Wizard of Oz, so to speak, busy pushing the levers and pressing buttons. That's what maths is, the wizard. It sounds like nonsense but I'm sure a lot of people know what I'm talking about.
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arvy wrote:Question, how did they know, years before and why they decided to share it with us


Are you saying that you think Boards of Canada predicted the downfall of humanity? You really dont think this subject has been explored a million times before?

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I'll also add that a lot of the aesthetics from TH come directly from the documentary I linked "The Day After Trinity". Skip to the ending credits to see for yourself.

Carl Sagan had a lot to do with the Pioneer plaques (and subsequently Voyager 1 and 2) we see an image of on the Hell Interface Youtube account banner (among others).
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Water Can, you're right, the end of that is 100% Reach For The Dead.

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Intuition is too powerful of a tool.
we've been on a natural (and yet unnatural) downwards trend as a species for longer than I think people realize. Go find a video from 2006 and play a 'spot-the-difference' game compared to how things are now. The dichotomy sticks out like a rotten carrot in the garden once you notice it.
I think we're just now beginning to notice it because of the extensions that technologies give us. Speed, observation, some could even argue knowledge. But be aware that a heavy price is paid for each of these three things. Awareness, empathy, and social-flexibility. Humans poison themselves with information overload in the name of impulse.

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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


This is really interesting because they have sampled a few tv commercials for Old Tunes vol 2 like the Frosties ad and Dirt Devil and even on SocietasX with Minute Maid and as youve mentioned they have given permission for their music to be used in car commercials and obviously The National Film Board of Canada, Sesame Street etc were huge influences on them so it seems like they are more than happy for their music to be used in all of these commercial ways but they must have a line drawn somewhere because they definitely have a non-selling out philosophy and im sure they have a very specific belief as to what purposes their music should or shouldn't be used for.
There are some references to video games in their work although not many.. I think maybe in Old Tunes vol 2 there *may be* a sample from a video game, We have Hi Scores which can obviously have a few meanings and a possible reference to video games and there's the possible reference to the game "Bad day on Midway" with Oscar see through red eye and ive only just made a connection myself with the track 'Bad day' to that. Also we can't forget the interactive flash media which isnt a game as such but one could argue with that, It is immersive multimedia. So im sure video games may have had a small influence on them, But maybe not enough for them to want to promote or be involved too deeply in.

So yeah i think they are happy for their music to be used for very commercial purposes which fall in line with their philosophy, Which must be an odd one.. Being commercial without selling out, Being popular and widely known without being too mainstream while still having an air of mystery.

It almost seems like theyve came full circle, They were influenced by television and documentaries when they were young and strived to recreate that nostalgic sound and almost by accident they have themselves became a part of what inspired them in the first place. Absolutely fascinating!


I think we have to make some distinction between old media and new media.

The samples from OTv2 and SxT have an old nostalgic feeling to them. This is because they are old in reality from around the time which BoC drew inspiration, and they happen to be amusing. Sesame Street began in the late 1960s, and so this is part of their childhood experience.

While some may serve to be entertaining, new media relies so heavily on technology that practically all creativity is lost. Rinse and repeat the same formula.

I am about 10 years younger than them, and I remember media from the '70s as well as some of the samples they use because a lot of it was still on TV. There was a warm analog feeling to everything, and the creativity was so much greater because they could not rely so heavily on technology. Media producers had to use a lot more imagination to come up with entertaining things.

These days everything is a mile wide and an inch deep. Even satire of modern culture is no longer amusing, and actually rather sad.


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The reason I don't want to see BoC music integrated in superficial modern media is because their art is by far in away the most profound and meaningful I have ever encountered of any medium. I stand by what I said that I think including their music in modern media will only serve to attempt to cheapen it, which it doesn't deserve.
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luminousdusk wrote:
WATER_CAN-_- wrote:As I mentioned on Reddit, I think seeing BoC being encapsulated into a fictional entertainment product, motoring program, or advertisement only serves to attempt to cheapen their incredible artwork.

I think if their music was integrated into some other media that's in line with their philosophies or serves to somehow enhance their art, then I think that's totally cool. For example, coming full circle doing the soundtrack for a NFB documentary or nature documentary would be amazing.


This is really interesting because they have sampled a few tv commercials for Old Tunes vol 2 like the Frosties ad and Dirt Devil and even on SocietasX with Minute Maid and as youve mentioned they have given permission for their music to be used in car commercials and obviously The National Film Board of Canada, Sesame Street etc were huge influences on them so it seems like they are more than happy for their music to be used in all of these commercial ways but they must have a line drawn somewhere because they definitely have a non-selling out philosophy and im sure they have a very specific belief as to what purposes their music should or shouldn't be used for.
There are some references to video games in their work although not many.. I think maybe in Old Tunes vol 2 there *may be* a sample from a video game, We have Hi Scores which can obviously have a few meanings and a possible reference to video games and there's the possible reference to the game "Bad day on Midway" with Oscar see through red eye and ive only just made a connection myself with the track 'Bad day' to that. Also we can't forget the interactive flash media which isnt a game as such but one could argue with that, It is immersive multimedia. So im sure video games may have had a small influence on them, But maybe not enough for them to want to promote or be involved too deeply in.

So yeah i think they are happy for their music to be used for very commercial purposes which fall in line with their philosophy, Which must be an odd one.. Being commercial without selling out, Being popular and widely known without being too mainstream while still having an air of mystery.

It almost seems like theyve came full circle, They were influenced by television and documentaries when they were young and strived to recreate that nostalgic sound and almost by accident they have themselves became a part of what inspired them in the first place. Absolutely fascinating!


I think we have to make some distinction between old media and new media.

The samples from OTv2 and SxT have an old nostalgic feeling to them. This is because they are old in reality from around the time which BoC drew inspiration, and they happen to be amusing. Sesame Street began in the late 1960s, and so this is part of their childhood experience.

While some may serve to be entertaining, new media relies so heavily on technology that practically all creativity is lost. Rinse and repeat the same formula.

I am about 10 years younger than them, and I remember media from the '70s as well as some of the samples they use because a lot of it was still on TV. There was a warm analog feeling to everything, and the creativity was so much greater because they could not rely so heavily on technology. Media producers had to use a lot more imagination to come up with entertaining things.

These days everything is a mile wide and an inch deep. Even satire of modern culture is no longer amusing, and actually rather sad.


Btw here is an Oscar:
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The reason I don't want to see BoC music integrated in superficial modern media is because their art is by far in away the most profound and meaningful I have ever encountered of any medium. I stand by what I said that I think including their music in modern media will only serve to attempt to cheapen it, which it doesn't deserve.


I do get where you're coming from, Its always weird when your favourite niche band gets popular and mainstream like we've all seen before but i think BoC have proven to us that they arent sellouts and dont want to be mainstream. You cant blame them for wanting their music to be used in media.. They have every right to make money from their art and if they see it fit to be in a car commercial then so be it. Its their vision, Not ours.

Also for me, Their music being in a car commercial doesnt detract from the music at all. We all have the ability to turn the lights down, Get comfy in our favourite listening position and listen on our own terms.. Or blast it from our cars with 10kw subs.

I think if they wanted all the money and all the popularity then they could get then they certainly wouldnt have left 10 years between their last album, They wouldnt have left 7 years between TCH and TH. They would be constantly churning out material tailored to the mainstream, Following the guide of big poobah producers to make what they think everyone wants to hear. Think how bad it could really be.. They seem to be trying their best to be as anti-mainstream as absolutely possible.. They literally couldn't be anymore underground than they are considering their fairly good success.. So i dont see the difference if Louis Theroux wants to use a bit Sunshine Recorder while cruisin through the hood, Its amazing music suited so well for television it would make no sense not to use it that way.

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Of course, I think BoC deserve to make a good living and to be able to live comfortably. If they think they should sell the rights to allow others to utilize their work, I will not fault them too badly. I do trust their judgement, and am grateful for the positive impact their work has had on my life (and continues to have).

I think your sentiment is fair. However, I thought that it was important to share that some of us fans prefer not to see their art trivialized if at all possible. I'll leave it at that.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:Of course, I think BoC deserve to make a good living and to be able to live comfortably. If they think they should sell the rights to allow others to utilize their work, I will not fault them too badly. I do trust their judgement, and am grateful for the positive impact their work has had on my life (and continues to have).

I think your sentiment is fair. However, I thought that it was important to share that some of us fans prefer not to see their art trivialized if at all possible. I'll leave it at that.


Yeah fair play. There is a time and a place and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt!

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luminousdusk wrote:
arvy wrote:Question, how did they know, years before and why they decided to share it with us


Are you saying that you think Boards of Canada predicted the downfall of humanity? You really dont think this subject has been explored a million times before?


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Davism wrote:Water Can, you're right, the end of that is 100% Reach For The Dead.


Thanks, Davism. I stumbled upon this some time ago, and have been meaning to add it to bocpages wiki.
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Hey ! So what's new over the horizon radar ?
"Boc is probably in the future thinking about the past" - Sean Booth 05/06/2022

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Hey Merry Christmas you lot of crazy boccers, have a soylent night and may we lead into the new year with high Boctimism and a knowingness that 2024 is finally going to be the year that Boards of Canada release a full length studio album. See you all when it all goes down in a few months from now ! :D
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Merry merry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehKSNy0zS1M

Hm. That ending?

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demo wrote:Hey Merry Christmas you lot of crazy boccers, have a soylent night and may we lead into the new year with high Boctimism and a knowingness that 2024 is finally going to be the year that Boards of Canada release a full length studio album. See you all when it all goes down in a few months from now ! :D


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Its a whole 'nother year

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