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Buckie High is overrated asf, To The Wind, Mukinabaht, and Kiteracer 2 are much, MUCH better.

here's my tierlist of the best songs on BoC's discog:
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mGardener wrote:here's my tierlist of the best songs on BoC's discog:
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THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS AND SUNDOWN IN MEDIOCRE????
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(They're my favourite songs on both Geogaddi and Tomorrow's Harvest respectfully :lol: )

Aside, I likey your list.
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Opening the mouth.. dude come on

I guess you don't get the ethereal spirit voice echoing through Egyptian tombs a mysterious and spooky vibe

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Sorry, what mediocre tracks on Geogaddi?

Also, don't be so mean with Devil.

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mGardener wrote:Buckie High is overrated asf, To The Wind, Mukinabaht, and Kiteracer 2 are much, MUCH better.

here's my tierlist of the best songs on BoC's discog:
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Putting P.C. On S tier and Happy Cycling on F tier is crazy but I respect it
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Rodox has the correct personal opinion

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Aphex Twin is more CREATIVE and overall 1 star better than BOC, he doesnt steal whole baselines and songs from popular artists. But of course that doesnt mean BOC is terrible.

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theskitdenator wrote:Aphex Twin is more CREATIVE and overall 1 star better than BOC, he doesnt steal whole baselines and songs from popular artists. But of course that doesnt mean BOC is terrible.


I only recall them lifting the bass from Aquarius. is there more? The way they go about sampling interesting musical fragments doesn't strike me as stealing whole basslines and songs to be honest.

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THAT AFOT AND OTV2 HAD OFFICIAL VHS VIDEO RELEASES

PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!!! This has been on my mind for half a decade now. I have evidence to at least prove that a specific rip of AFOT and OTV2 were not sourced from audio cassette but actually from VHS tape(s).

I discovered this years ago when I did audio spectral analysis of all the rips that exist of AFOT and OTV2.

Essentially the noise patterns in this rip correspond to the same specrtral artifacts seen in audio from a VHS tape that was recorded in LP or SP mode on a VCR without Hi-Fi functionality.

At the top I have Zander Two from OTV2 and on the bottom I have my own VHS rip. Notice the 15khz tone present in any recordings made near electron tubes from CRTs. As well as the nature of the noise pattern (specifically in quite parts of ZT.) Notice how there is an amplification of noise during quite parts UP TO 10khz in which case the noise and audio both cut off at. The very nature of the limited fidelity mixed in with the 15khz tone to me indicates that this was likely VHS sourced and not audio cassette.
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The only arguments I can think of against this theory is that if the tape was recorded in LP why is the audio stereo? My only come backs are is that either this could have been recorded on a VCR at SP speed with stereo support but no Hi-Fi support. Or that this rip is from a multi generation copy of the original VHS tape which would have been in Hi-Fi stereo. (I don't recall knowing if LP or EP support stereo audio).

Imagine the implications. That anyone at the time who was lucky enough to be part of Hexagon Sun not only getting early BoC but early BoC music videos on VHS for their own enjoyment.

Could it mean that BoC have visuals for their entire catalog!?

PLEASE HEAR ME OUT THIS HAS GOTTA MAKE SENSE TO SOMEONEEEEEE!!! DXXXXXXXXX
this thread is full of shenanigans.

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Flory wrote:THAT AFOT AND OTV2 HAD OFFICIAL VHS VIDEO RELEASES

PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!!! This has been on my mind for half a decade now. I have evidence to at least prove that a specific rip of AFOT and OTV2 were not sourced from audio cassette but actually from VHS tape(s).

I discovered this years ago when I did audio spectral analysis of all the rips that exist of AFOT and OTV2.

Essentially the noise patterns in this rip correspond to the same specrtral artifacts seen in audio from a VHS tape that was recorded in LP or SP mode on a VCR without Hi-Fi functionality.

At the top I have Zander Two from OTV2 and on the bottom I have my own VHS rip. Notice the 15khz tone present in any recordings made near electron tubes from CRTs. As well as the nature of the noise pattern (specifically in quite parts of ZT.) Notice how there is an amplification of noise during quite parts UP TO 10khz in which case the noise and audio both cut off at. The very nature of the limited fidelity mixed in with the 15khz tone to me indicates that this was likely VHS sourced and not audio cassette.
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The only arguments I can think of against this theory is that if the tape was recorded in LP why is the audio stereo? My only come backs are is that either this could have been recorded on a VCR at SP speed with stereo support but no Hi-Fi support. Or that this rip is from a multi generation copy of the original VHS tape which would have been in Hi-Fi stereo. (I don't recall knowing if LP or EP support stereo audio).

Imagine the implications. That anyone at the time who was lucky enough to be part of Hexagon Sun not only getting early BoC but early BoC music videos on VHS for their own enjoyment.

Could it mean that BoC have visuals for their entire catalog!?

PLEASE HEAR ME OUT THIS HAS GOTTA MAKE SENSE TO SOMEONEEEEEE!!! DXXXXXXXXX


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dunno how controversial this is these days but i'd love to hear some more psychedelic / acoustic work by the brothers in the vein of TCH but even more stripped down, let the melodies shine through!
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The remix of Dead Dogs Two is probably the best thing these guys have ever done. Absolutely sweeps everything.
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Not really controversial but the Campfire Headphase is their greatest LP. It's one of the few albums from that otherwise desolate decade that was truly meaningful. Along with In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country, it's their masterpiece.

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stripesworths wrote:The remix of Dead Dogs Two is probably the best thing these guys have ever done. Absolutely sweeps everything.


The instrumental version is a stunning track. Unmistakably BOC, but gives off a slightly different vibe...feels playful and magical.

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Just a thought I had while driving. What if the audience heard at the begging of the SOMETIMES remix is actually sourced from a soundboard recording of one of their live performances?
this thread is full of shenanigans.

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Trans Canada Highway is forgettable.
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Miguel wrote:Trans Canada Highway is forgettable.
I skip both of the Dayvan tracks

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Miguel wrote:Trans Canada Highway is forgettable.
I skip both of the Dayvan tracks

Yup, same. It makes the EP hella short but super consistent.

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Tomorrow's Harvest is their best official LP.

And MHTRTC is their weakest (still great of course).

I've listened to TH, like all the BOC albums, dozens upon dozens of times over the years, and it just gets better and better with time. The themes are prescient and relevant to this present moment in particular in a way that I didn't see back in 2013. And sonically it's just their most impressive from a production standpoint.

I love it all tho. Old Tunes era still might be my personal favorite BOC but I was being technical above by only including the "official"/studio LPs.

Man we really need a new album don't we lol. Still, I'd die happy even without one, that's just how much I love the music they have given us.

Here's a possibly controversial opinion - I think I like Macquarie Ridge more than anything else on Campfire. Reaaaally wish that track was included either on the album proper, or on the TCH EP.

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